Vintage Gretsch Guitars

The Gretsch Rally

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duojet - thanks for that information. that definitely adds some useful perspective.

duojet55 - it's not so much that i see "hate" about the rally - more that in history books, message board posts, and other "historical" publications it is described in some fashion as "the gretsch design that was considered 'lesser'", if you get my drift.

I think it's amazing, and every time i pick it up i wonder - why is there not a thinline hollow (trestle, not center block), double cut guitar (in a solid, lighter color, preferably) with hilotrons like this still in the gretsch line?? it's a killer design. Something about the thinline body with those pickups is a perfect combo.

more..

more...

want to know more about it.

– variantboy

I agree. I really like thinline 16" double cutaway hollow body guitars. I'm wondering why Gretsch doesn't make a Pro-line version of a 5422 called the 6422. They already have the body template with the new 6620, Broadkaster and Panther guitars. Just take out the center blocks.

It would be like the Gretsch version of a Gibson ES-330 or Epiphone Elitist Casino. They could offer it with Dynasonics and Filtertrons.

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That's a beautiful guitar, Crowbone.....but....

..."angels farting glitter"!? I just about blew coffee everywhere. That'd be a great song title!

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How about "Clown Sneeze"?

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Interesting how the paint job on the Franken-Rally matches the binding rot on the neck heel, but the paint job leaves me speechless as no other guitar ever has. Truly unique -lx

Somewhere I have a picture of Fred Gretsch, Joe Carducci and I holding this thing.

The look on Fred's face...

and crow bone..... ... wow... just... wow - variantboy

Yeah...that's the general reaction no matter if they love it or hate it.

*That's a beautiful guitar, Crowbone.....but....

..."angels farting glitter"!? I just about blew coffee everywhere. That'd be a great song title!* - wabash slim

What can I say? An inspired, late night moment. :)

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Crowbone, your Rally is the only Rally I've ever played. Are you telling me they're not all like that?

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Crowbone, your Rally is the only Rally I've ever played. Are you telling me they're not all like that?

– Otter

Haha, hardly.

They are all thin, which I really love, but the setup is nothing like mine. Nothing sounds better to me than a '56 Dynasonic in the bridge position on a thinline guitar.

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They are all thin, which I really love, but the setup is nothing like mine. Nothing sounds better to me than a '56 Dynasonic in the bridge position on a thinline guitar.

I think Baxter has a '60's Clipper which he modded with Dynas. Martin made a thinline with a DeArmond sometime in the '60's.

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Circa 1983. Had my about-to-graduate-college-and-go-out-int-the-big-bad-worls haircut.

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They are all thin, which I really love, but the setup is nothing like mine. Nothing sounds better to me than a '56 Dynasonic in the bridge position on a thinline guitar.

I think Baxter has a '60's Clipper which he modded with Dynas. Martin made a thinline with a DeArmond sometime in the '60's.

– lx

He does.

Curt did a bangup job on it, too.

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I just remembered, my Rally is on page 237 of Jay Scott's book. Somewhere I have a color pic of it. I know Jay didn't like the "Rally Green" too much, but I always loved the late '60s transparent green on guitars. I's always wished Rickenbacker had offered their Greenglo (sic) as a standard color.

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Crowbone, I have a silver guard and the "normal" black Gretsch TRC. Kinda wish I had the original ones though.

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Crowbone, I have a silver guard and the "normal" black Gretsch TRC. Kinda wish I had the original ones though.

– hilosean

Send me your address, and we can swap?

The TRC is yours.

It's the only evidence that this was a Rally, which I don't care about.

If I find the PG ever, I'll thow that in there, too, but I haven't seen that in twenty years and two moves.

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– crowbone

The Giger Gretsch!

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The Giger Gretsch!

That's not bad either. Franken-Rally suggests a lot of mish-mashed parts. Crowbone's Rally needs a name as that thing is unlike any guitar I've ever seen. That paint job....

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I like the Rally. It's actually my first attempt at a Gretsch. I really didn't buy mine because of the sound, or the color. I played an old green anniversary model in my local Guitar Center. It was advertised as needing a neck reset. I loved it but couldn't afford the price of it. I wanted a slimmer model but with about the same neck, and found a Rally husk. I should be into it cheaper than what Guitar Center was asking for the anniversary model. I don't have any Rally-specific parts and I plan on putting gold hardware on it anyway.

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I just remembered, my Rally is on page 237 of Jay Scott's book. Somewhere I have a color pic of it. I know Jay didn't like the "Rally Green" too much, but I always loved the late '60s transparent green on guitars. I's always wished Rickenbacker had offered their Greenglo (sic) as a standard color.

– duojet55

Very cool - that pic inspired me to get mine

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Yes I had one, it's gone. I had a wound G on it and it was a great rhythm guitar. I loved the colour

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Somebody did well. Congrats

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While i love the bamboo / copper combination - i'm usually not so keene on the green but that one looks amazing.

nice!

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Any one out there still willing to offer thoughts on Rally construction/features vs the more stalwart models ?

I'm of course looking for an understanding of the inspiration for language such as this (from our very own GDP), which i have seen from more than one source - internet, books, etc :

Another odd choice was the onboard active treble booster switch. Since HiLoTrons already tend to be trebly, it wasn’t a particularly useful feature.

In the Rally’s favor, it was inexpensive. Retailing for $395 when new, it sat squarely at the lower end of Gretsch’s hollowbody line.

(and of course all additional praise/hate for the rally is welcome too!)

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I don't think they're as disliked as you seem to think they are. There's very little in the world of Gretsch that doesn't inspire antipathy from one angle or another, and the Rally's no different. But it does have Hilo-Trons, which have particularly dedicated haters (as well as lots of fans). And a treble boost does seem like an odd choice with an already bright guitar, but you don't have to use it if you don't like it. And they weren't at the bottom of the hollowbody line. They're obviously above Clippers, and I'd be surprised if they weren't more expensive than Anniversaries. More like lower middle of the pack.

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I don't think they're as disliked as you seem to think they are.

I guess in a way, I am hoping just that.

And if statements to the contrary (such as I quoted above from the text of this very tribute site) can be refuted as you have just done, I'd be a little less mystified.... as each time I pick mine up i think - this is a wonderful guitar.

And any details as to what differences or similarities it has with any of it's Gretsch contemporaries would be fun to know too. Like : were there any other hollow double cuts with real f-holes in this era other than the monkees guitar? Was the bracing different than ... say... a 6120DC or a Gent ?


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