26 BuddyHollywood 5 months ago duojet - thanks for that information. that definitely adds some useful perspective. duojet55 - it's not so much that i see "hate" about the rally - more that in history books, message board posts, and other "historical" publications it is described in some fashion as "the gretsch design that was considered 'lesser'", if you get my drift. I think it's amazing, and every time i pick it up i wonder - why is there not a thinline hollow (trestle, not center block), double cut guitar (in a solid, lighter color, preferably) with hilotrons like this still in the gretsch line?? it's a killer design. Something about the thinline body with those pickups is a perfect combo. more..more... want to know more about it. I agree. I really like thinline 16" double cutaway hollow body guitars. I'm wondering why Gretsch doesn't make a Pro-line version of a 5422 called the 6422. They already have the body template with the new 6620, Broadkaster and Panther guitars. Just take out the center blocks. It would be like the Gretsch version of a Gibson ES-330 or Epiphone Elitist Casino. They could offer it with Dynasonics and Filtertrons.