Vintage Gretsch Guitars

Clean Little Princess

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Sweet. Could it be faded pink? I think some were white, but not seen a color like this.

I'd get it...

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That's lovely. I didn't know these had the back pad.

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That's lovely. I didn't know these had the back pad.

– Suprdave

Once he got the patent for them, Jimmy Webster was slapping them on whatever he could get away with. Early double-cut Jets -- especially with sparkle finishes, Princesses, and a few double cut 6120s without the mutes. Originally the pads were there to cover the monster hole in the backs needed to place the mute levers. According to Dan Duffy -- Gretsch's QC guy from '57 to '70 -- Webster went kind of nuts on the concept and actually had a couple of padded guitars made, none of which have turned up.

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That one is really nice.

My '62 is pink but aged to a beautiful creme.

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Her flashy back pad

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That one is really nice.

My '62 is pink but aged to a beautiful creme.

– Setzer

I've always thought a great two-tone color scheme would be a creme just like this on the front and metallic oxblood on the back and sides. Does yours also have the Waverly tuners?

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These models reflect the rare application of gold plated Hilotrons.

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Yeah and one is slightly bent. I dare not try to straighten it

And the HiLo sounds great

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These models reflect the rare application of gold plated Hilotrons.

– kc_eddie_b

You find them on a fair amount of '59 Clippers. If you see a gold surround on a Clipper chances are the HiLo is also gold plated but usually worn down to "almost" chrome/nickel. Also check for gold polepieces. But only on '59s.

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Yeah and one is slightly bent. I dare not try to straighten it

And the HiLo sounds great

– Setzer

The original owner put a set of gold plated Waverlys on my '59 Clipper and they work, look and feel way better than the Klusons that were originally on it. Got a slightly bent tuner too and I'm not messing with it.

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I guess none of them stayed pink tho.

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I had a friend with one in typical somewhat beat up condition that his mother left him. It played fine. He asked me if I wanted to buy it but I wasn't interested. He asked me what price it would be worth and I looked on Ebay and determined it to be worth $900 in actual money. He took it to Guitar Center and they offered him $1,000 plus $200 store credit and he took it. It stayed on the wall there for 2 or 3 years priced at $1500....Then it was gone. I don't know what happened with it. Those specialized one-pickup Corvettes like the Twist or Princess seem to sell in the high 3 figures when you look at real money changing hands..

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Amazing condition. For some reason, however, I thought that the Princess had some very light metal flakes in the finish.

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Amazing condition. For some reason, however, I thought that the Princess had some very light metal flakes in the finish.

– Ric12string

You may be confusing these with the Silver Duke models.

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Was there ever really a "Gold Duke"?.... or were those just Silver Dukes that yellowed over time?

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You find them on a fair amount of '59 Clippers. If you see a gold surround on a Clipper chances are the HiLo is also gold plated but usually worn down to "almost" chrome/nickel. Also check for gold polepieces. But only on '59s.

– lx

Yes... the first groups of '59 Clippers had that soap-bar looking "transitional" pickup, but you're correct some later batches did in fact have gold Hilo's. It just seems that the application of a Hilotron helps define the mid-lower range within the Gretsch product line. That fact, usually flies in the face of gold-plated hardware common to higher-end Gretsch models.

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You may be confusing these with the Silver Duke models.

– kc_eddie_b

Yep, Ed, that is what I was thinking of. Thank you, sir.

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Was there ever really a "Gold Duke"?.... or were those just Silver Dukes that yellowed over time?

– guitarcapo

There's a picture of a Gold Duke in the first Bacon & Day book, but IIRC Ed said this was the only one to turn up.

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I guess none of them stayed pink tho.

– DCBirdMan

DC, I guess the chances are pretty slim. They've probably aged like mine.

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kc_eddie_b don't forget that the Sal Salvador's after about 1960 had gold-plated Hi Lo 'Trons and that wasn't exactly a mid-range model. In fact, there was recently on Reverb a Sal Salvador HiLo 'Tron rig of pickup, pickguard and brackets for sale. I think it was about $300 or so but I could be wrong about that price

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kc_eddie_b don't forget that the Sal Salvador's after about 1960 had gold-plated Hi Lo 'Trons and that wasn't exactly a mid-range model. In fact, there was recently on Reverb a Sal Salvador HiLo 'Tron rig of pickup, pickguard and brackets for sale. I think it was about $300 or so but I could be wrong about that price

– ewkewk

Correct... and that's my point. The Sal Salvador was an upper-end model, so seeing a Hilo on it is atypical.

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There's a picture of a Gold Duke in the first Bacon & Day book, but IIRC Ed said this was the only one to turn up.

– lx

I'm still not convinced that the "one" Gold Duke that's surfaced isn't just a yellowed Silver Duke. But... with Gretsch I've earned to remain open-minded.


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