You don't see many of these, a country gent with dial mutes. At least that's what these look like to me. I think they only did it in 1962. The mutes then changed to the flip lever type ( the 6120's followed the same evolution) Link
6122 with dial mutes
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Jan 6, 2007 12:13 p.m. Antikvier:
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Jan 6, 2007 1:29 p.m. Scott:
Yep, they were only manufactured like that from late '61 to early '63.
Wonder how much Gary wants for it?
If he's following his usual SOP too damn much... :mad:
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Jan 6, 2007 1:38 p.m. Shawn Bragg:
I'm usually not that into "flame," but I have to admit that the figure on that guitar is spectacular. Pretty instrument!
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Mar 8, 2007 4:20 p.m. Prussia:
I spoke about dial-up mutes with Bill Hagner a long time ago -- I think it was around l991 or l992 -- and he told me Gretsch dropped the dial-up mutes and switched to the lever-action mutes because it took nearly one hour to install each of the dial-up mutes. Gretsch would have made the change sooner because the dial-up mutes were such a pain, but it took the production people a long time to engineer a workable lever-action mute.
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Mar 8, 2007 7:28 p.m. Antikvier:
I prefer the dial up mute because it is much easier to set the amount force exerted by the muffler onto the strings. I liked that in the 62 Gents. But with the lever mute, it is very hard to get anything other than full force, at least on the guitars I have tried. It is possible to set the lever mute for a lighter force, but it takes a bit of fiddling with plus it does not always stay put.
The full force provides too much muting in my opinion for just about any music, but with a lighter force it is usuable.
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Mar 9, 2007 7:44 a.m. lionel:
I thought that the current 6122-62 with the flip-up mutes was supposed to be an accurate recreation of that vintage.
I'm with Proteus on this one. I think the mutes are just silly.
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Mar 9, 2007 7:54 a.m. JazzBoxJunky:
I can deal with the idea of mutes, but for the life of me, I could never get behind the back pad concept. For me, this gadget era for Gretsch was kinda a step back, just more stuff to rattle on the guitar, and damp the sound. That guitar is mighty clean, should be someone's cup of tea.
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Mar 9, 2007 8:34 a.m. Antikvier:
The backpad covered up the hole in the back.
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Mar 9, 2007 9:02 a.m. lionel:
I don't know why they just didn't put a brown plastic, or black plastic or even a wood-laminated cover on the access hole.
Perhaps Dan Duffy would know why they went the pad route.
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Mar 9, 2007 9:48 a.m. Mike Detlefsen:
Well, the back pad covered up the plastic plate that covered the hole in the back. The plastic plate on mine is white.
I'm indifferent to the pad, overall. I'm sure Jimmy Webster thought it was a great idea.
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Mar 9, 2007 10:11 a.m. lionel:
I was just thinking, if you made the access panel more aesthetically acceptable, then you wouldn't need the pad to cover it. After all, lots of guitars have exposed access panels, including the Roundup and Jets of that era, right?
And it isn't like the "pad" is actually a cushion for comfort, just a drape of vinyl. Well, at least it's less likely to get "buckle rash" (how about "buckle tear" or "buckle rip"?).
And it is on the BACK of the guitar, thank goodness.
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Mar 9, 2007 10:19 a.m. The Norm:
part of the beauty of the gent's was always the figures in the wood. Webster! Gaahhh!!! Drill for snaps and put a cheap pad on the back? And then try to tell me it's for my 'comfort'!
I say again. I never heard a saloon guitarist wish he had a pad on the back of his guitar to make his gig easier...
Waddaya expect from a piano tuner...
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Mar 9, 2007 10:30 a.m. lionel:
This example is an exception. Most of the Gents I see are so dark they might as well be black,and there's not much grain to see.
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Mar 9, 2007 10:50 a.m. 6122:
What I was wondering was how come it has the F holes outlined in white. You usually see this on 6119s but hardly ever on 6122. Neither of George's Gents had the outline, but his Tennesean did???
