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The Rev digs the Synchro Club!

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I had the great pleasure of hanging out and sitting in with Jim Heath when he came through town the other day. He was quite taken with the Synchro Club!!

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Well, it's a beautiful guitar, no huge surprise there.

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Everything sounds better with Cat's Eyes.

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The Synchro Club in action...obscured by some dude's head!

EDIT: In my post before Strummerson's the Edit function wouldn't let me change out the photo so I had to delete the post and repeat it here. The photo was taken by a friend of mine so I should ask him first if it's okay to post it on here...so, while I wait on that here's the Synchro Club in action again. Not obscured by some dude's head!

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Cool, I think I'm going to order a set of those T-90's for my old DeArmond-equipped Starfire when I can afford it. Doesn't really get better than a twin P90 hollowbody, does it?

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I met the Rev this past December, he was a really nice guy!

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So...maybe tag team Papa Joe Carducci and persuade him on a production model?

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Rightfully so! That guitar rips, I'd really like to hear it since it has those T-90's in it

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I think the main hangup in making the Synchro Club into a production model is that the machinery would have to re tooled and recalibrated a lot to mass produce models that were the same. the thin body and different dimensions of the neck and headstock make it a bit cost prohibitive. Heres my solution CALLING JOE!!!!!!! we make the SC a standard CC with a spruce top, cats eyes and of course its signature tortoise binding and other syncromatic features. 9.5 radius neck, custom wiring (grease buckets and treble bleed) scripty logo, and the custom TV Jones T90s in Dyna Mount. there!!! what ya think!!!!!

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or we use a 59 Country Gent as the template?

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Apropos spruce tops, Paul. Dunno if you've seen my 1940 Epi Triumph I snagged about 2 years back for a really great price. The Rhythm Chief is from the 50s, but rewound.

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A full-deep CC template would make the SC, sonically, little different from a spruce-top Club - and the "oops" series of natural spruce-top Clubs from 2007 even looked similar. Of course the catseye and Synchro dress would distinguish it, but I'd think it would respond and sound very different from your proto, wouldn't it?

I mean, a thin almost-entirely-open hollowbody is a different beast from a deep one. At least for me!

So yeah, starting from the already-thin 59 Gent makes a lot of sense. Get the internal bracing/waffles/non-bracing tuned right, cut the catseye in spruce top, and there you are. Neck pitch might have to be different to accommodate the T90s, but those changes are far from having to start from scratch.

For another approach - more affordable - maybe a model could base on this Electromatic. Leave out the centerblock, spruce the top, float the bridge and dress it Synchro, and there it kinda is.

Big difference is 16" body steada 17. Would that kill the vibe? It might actually make an almost-completely-hollow body more manageable for rockers. It would also be a Gretsch answer to the Casino.

I don't know if it's as easy to spec construction changes in Korea vs Terada, but you're starting from a lower price point to begin with, so...maybe? Sure be great to see this at 1,500.00 (or less) rather than 3,000.00 (or more). If it streeted at something closer to PBR rather than champagne prices, a lot more players might opt to take a chance on a unique spec.

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Well, and scale length. The SC is 25.5, isn't it? And you like it that way, wouldn't want it to be otherwise? That would probably play into production decisions: the 59 Gent starts out at 25.5; the Electro at 24.6.

So that's another production difference at the Korean plant. Doesn't seem HUGE - since the bridge would be a floater, there's no math to do. Just takes a longer neck. But I don't know if they do any 25.5-scale Gretschs there.

Can't imagine why they couldn't, though.

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A full-deep CC template would make the SC, sonically, little different from a spruce-top Club - and the "oops" series of natural spruce-top Clubs from 2007 even looked similar. Of course the catseye and Synchro dress would distinguish it, but I'd think it would respond and sound very different from your proto, wouldn't it?

I mean, a thin almost-entirely-open hollowbody is a different beast from a deep one. At least for me!

So yeah, starting from the already-thin 59 Gent makes a lot of sense. Get the internal bracing/waffles/non-bracing tuned right, cut the catseye in spruce top, and there you are. Neck pitch might have to be different to accommodate the T90s, but those changes are far from having to start from scratch.

For another approach - more affordable - maybe a model could base on this Electromatic. Leave out the centerblock, spruce the top, float the bridge and dress it Synchro, and there it kinda is.

Big difference is 16" body steada 17. Would that kill the vibe? It might actually make an almost-completely-hollow body more manageable for rockers. It would also be a Gretsch answer to the Casino.

I don't know if it's as easy to spec construction changes in Korea vs Terada, but you're starting from a lower price point to begin with, so...maybe? Sure be great to see this at 1,500.00 (or less) rather than 3,000.00 (or more). If it streeted at something closer to PBR rather than champagne prices, a lot more players might opt to take a chance on a unique spec.

– Proteus

I agree the thinline is a necessity for a production model of this guitar. When I heard the Syncro-Club live it had a certain high mid presence that is a signature trait of a thinline hollow body. You could also make an Electromatic version by using the 5422 template but making it a single cutaway. Cat's eyes optional.

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The g400c is cc dimensions with a spruce top and cat eyes...

On mine I went ahead and routed it for dynas and slapped a bigsby on it.

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I originally suggested we make this an electromatic when we were first discussing a production model. I think the Korean factory makes fantastic guitars. I don't mind that the scale would be different. I have lots of guitars and some are short and some are long. after a while it really doesn't make much difference to me when i'm playing. i think there is a bit more mid out of a short scale but thats not a bad thing. not everyone likes the long scale and if you want more twang then turn up the treble on the amp and pick closer to the bridge. i played 24.5 for many years before i met the folks at Gretsch so i would be comfortable with that. I think the key to this guitar is really the lack of heavy bracing in it, wiring and the choice of pickups. now that the T90s are in it i think i'm done tweaking it so lets say, single cut Electromatic body with Cats Eyes, clear top, my wiring and T90s. i would be happy to take that on the road and would feel better about checking it on a plane as well!!!!!

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Cool shot of the two of you on FB too!

The T90 were at the Roundup. The TV test guitar unveiled they are like a p90 but slightly less mid honky/muddy. Undoubtedly P90 but I'd say even better. A P90 has some guiding iron in it, which wasn't needed in the T90. The impedance behavior improved and most importantly, the sound also. All you like about the P90 is there. All you may have liked less, is gone. I wish I had recorded the Sjolte ZZ Top licks. They sounded so good on the T90. Sjolte even can do the harmonic sounds that Billy Gibbons does.


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