Pickups

TV Jones Power’tron in a Stratocaster

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I have a Strat with Tex Mex pickups in it right now. I'm thinking about buying a replacement HSS pickguard and putting a humbucker sized Power'tron I have in the bridge position. I want to wire it with the Power'tron on a 1 meg pot for volume, the middle and neck Strat pickups would be on the second knob which would be the volume for those two with a 250K pot controlled by a 3 way switch and the third knob would be the master tone for the guitar.

There are many Cabronita Telecasters with TV Jones pickups but has anyone gotten better than anticipated results from putting one in a Strat? I'm still going to keep the old pickguard with the traditional SSS configuration in case I want the traditional Strat back.

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I've done it bridge only, but I'm not a big fan of filtertrons in a telecaster, a strat even less. That said I'd put magnatrons in a strat, its a perfect match.

3

I was surprised at how good a pair of TV Filter'tron Classics sounded in a partscaster Tele Thinline I built. I used a Rutters Burrito bridge with Tele saddles. It sounds waaaay better than I expected, and way better than the P90s I tried first. The P90s sounded ok but a bit featureless. The Classics sound huge, full of Fendery twang but also fat and they love some overdrive. They sound how I always thought a Jet should sound.

It makes me want to try them in a Strat.

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The sound a Strat makes vs what a Tele makes is the reason I want to try this. I'm in the middle of recording and I didn't use the Strat on any of the songs. Other guitars had a better bridge pickup sound for what I was going for and my Jazzmaster had a funkier neck pickup sound. As much as I wanted my current Strat to be traditional I realize if I'm going to use this guitar i need to make it work for what I'm doing. The Strat has a clankier sound for lack of a better adjective compared to a Telecaster. I think it has to do with the springs and the extra routing. I'm hoping the Power'tron will fatten up the clank.

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I did it! I made a Power Strat. I wired the Power'tron to a 1 meg pot I installed in the first volume knob position. I moved the Strat Tex-Mex bridge pickup to the middle and left the neck pickup in the neck. I wired these to the 3 way switch like a Telecaster and they are controlled by the second knob which I made a 250K volume for these two pickups. The third knob is a 250K tone pot for the whole guitar. The Power'tron really is a great sounding bridge pickup for a Strat. It retains enough of the Filtertron chime but adds a lot of PAF style body which really suits a Strat with its naturally thin tone. Having the Strat pickups controlled by the 3 way swtich gives me traditional Strat tones and even the middle and neck quack sound in the middle position on the switch which is the middle and neck together. Having the hotter Tex-Mex bridge pickup in the middle is also a bonus because if I want a single coil Strat bridge pickup sound I can use this pickup and roll in a bit of the Power'tron to add back some high end to the tone that is missing by moving this pickup closer to the neck.

The only minor downside is that to blend the pickups I have to knock down the volume of either the Power'tron or the Strat pickups a hair. If they are on full there is some kind of cancellation going on and it sounds like half power tone. It is a pretty cool sound too but I don't know if I would ever use it. I remember reading this has to do with how TV Jones wires his pickups.

Overall I really like it! This guitar will likely get more use now because it suits my playing better than a standard Stratocaster with 3 single coils.

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I was surprised at how good a pair of TV Filter'tron Classics sounded in a partscaster Tele Thinline I built. I used a Rutters Burrito bridge with Tele saddles. It sounds waaaay better than I expected, and way better than the P90s I tried first. The P90s sounded ok but a bit featureless. The Classics sound huge, full of Fendery twang but also fat and they love some overdrive. They sound how I always thought a Jet should sound.

It makes me want to try them in a Strat.

– JimmyR

funny how taste is...well taste. I have a twin P90 tele with a Rutters body and bridge, and two 50's wound Lollar P90's, and I love it.

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That's really well done, Buddy. Great cosmetic choices too, with the aluminum guard and all-chrome PTron.

It's got me thinking. I can certainly see the merit in a fatter Strat bridge pup that doesn't go all the way to PAF (or hotter). I just don't have a deficient Strat at the moment to try this on, and didn't think I needed any more Strats.

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funny how taste is...well taste. I have a twin P90 tele with a Rutters body and bridge, and two 50's wound Lollar P90's, and I love it.

– WB

Taste indeed...the TV Classics in my Cabronita felt kind of lifeless to me, but I went in the Powertron direction to get what I wanted. It's pretty remarkable how much it still sounds like a Tele.

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It's pretty remarkable how much it still sounds like a Tele.

I had that same experience, I have two of these beasts, one with P90's, and one with old Kay "kleenex box" pickups, and in both cases, the tele DNA is a lot more obvious than I expected.

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Taste indeed...the TV Classics in my Cabronita felt kind of lifeless to me, but I went in the Powertron direction to get what I wanted. It's pretty remarkable how much it still sounds like a Tele.

– Otter

It's remarkable how much this one still sounds like a Strat. Different pickups bring different things to a guitar but the guitar's inherent sound is the foundation.

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Old thread revival alert. I have a soapbar TV Jones Powertron enroute for my strat. Neck position is already cut for humbucker. Thinking Setzer Sig. Or Classic for neck. Any thoughts on what model might best compliment the P.T. bridge and balance best? Suggestions sought and most appreciated.

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i'd think one of TV's hotter options would work best, i.e. a Setzer or a Classic Plus. i would lean towards the Setzer, but this is totally off the top of my head.

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It is in the number one slot for the moment. I was thinking that the Setzer would add some good brightness to the powertron in the middle position

14

How about a Magnatron in the neck? It is lower output but it has the pole magnets so it wouldn't lose that Strat spank.

15

My 3161 has a Mag in the bridge that I like a lot. I thought of neck Super which I have as well but thought it would darker in a Strat. Does your Bridge powertron balance decently with the Strat neck pickup ? More food for thought. Thank you

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Update response from Adam at TV Jones

"Thanks for your message and support of TV Jones products! If you haven't already, I would suggest considering our TV Classic neck (link is the soapbar version). If you're after something a bit more Fender-esque in tone, I would suggest our Magna'Tron"

I think for the sake of something new I'm going to try the classic in the neck. Thanks for all of the feedback

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My 3161 has a Mag in the bridge that I like a lot. I thought of neck Super which I have as well but thought it would darker in a Strat. Does your Bridge powertron balance decently with the Strat neck pickup ? More food for thought. Thank you

– LarryR

I wouldn't necessarily say they balance but it is what I was going for. I like it that the Power'Tron has the extra push that the Strat pickups don't. They do blend together well.

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Glad to hear how good it sounds in a Strat. I put Power'Trons in my Guild Starfire V and you ought to hear how good it sounds through the Executive. When I went to check out the Executive, the Guild and pickups blew the seller away and he decided to check out Starfires. Don't know if he bought one or not but he loved it.

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I did the HSS mod on one of my Strats, although I used a conventional humbucker I had in the parts box. The three-way mini switch gives full humbucking in the middle, either side cuts one coil or the other -- I was surprised at the difference in tone between the two single coil modes. I'd love to try a Supertron in there, using the appropriate adapter.

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I love routing Strats for Humbuckers, because between that & the vibrato cavity, you can have essentially no wood at all between the neck and the bridge!

21

The ‘ol swimming pool rout.

22

Chambered. It's chambered.

23

So I did a thing......ordered a Dimarzio DP211 EJ humbucker for the neck. Out of the box experiment. Dimarzio's and Eric Johnson's take on a Filtertron in humbucker format. More will be revealed. Film at Eleven......

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So I did a thing......ordered a Dimarzio DP211 EJ humbucker for the neck. Out of the box experiment. Dimarzio's and Eric Johnson's take on a Filtertron in humbucker format. More will be revealed. Film at Eleven......

– LarryR

I'm excited to hear your results! I've been curious about this pickup for a long time.

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This is my 2017 American Elite Stratocaster, with a Tim Shaw Humbucker in the bridge position and 4th generation noiseless pickups in the middle and neck positions. He balanced the humbucker very nicely with the other two pickups, and somehow he was able to retain the spank and voice that Strats are so well known for.

This is an amazingly nice instrument, with a compound fretboard radius and a compound neck shape (C to D). The five way x2 switch gives ten different pickup configurations, which is a bit over kill (but nice to have). This is one of my cold dead hands guitars.


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