Pickups

Blacktop FT’s and Strat middle

1

I'm purchased a set of blacktop filtertrons recently and plan to install them in a Strat. I'd also like to install a Strat middle pickup in as well. The desire is to have a Strat sound when using the middle pickup as well as the 'quack' in positions 2 and 4.

What should I be looking for to be a suitable middle for the Blacktops? Is a low output pickup around 6k? RWRP or normal winding/polarity?

2

I have a TV Jones Power'Tron in the bridge of my Strat, the middle pickup is a bridge Fender Tex-Mex pickup and the neck pickup is a Rose Robusta which I believe is similar to a Fender Fat 50's. They all balance really well together. I specifically used the bridge Tex-Mex for the middle position because the middle pickup in the Tex-Mex set is RWRP. Reversing the wind changes the quack sound a bit. It's subtle but noticeable. I'm pretty sure you could use any standard middle Strat pickup and get it balanced with height adjustments.

4

your'e not going to get the 2/4 position classic strat quack with humbucker/filtertrons in the 1st and 3rd pickup spot...only if the blacktops can be coil split, then you are in business...but with a volume drop!

cheers

5

This is the first I've heard about Rose Robusta pickups (though I'm pretty sheltered on boutique brands). I googled them and it appears Ken has closed up shop at the end of Aug.

6

your'e not going to get the 2/4 position classic strat quack with humbucker/filtertrons in the 1st and 3rd pickup spot...only if the blacktops can be coil split, then you are in business...but with a volume drop!

cheers

– neatone

Thanks Neatone. This is the information I am trying to understand. Have you tried this 'configuration' before and if so, why doesn't it 'quack'?

7

Thanks Neatone. This is the information I am trying to understand. Have you tried this 'configuration' before and if so, why doesn't it 'quack'?

– dimmy

With my Strat with a Power'Tron bridge there is a kind of quack with the bridge and middle engaged but it's a fuller sound because of the way the single coil reacts with the humbucker as opposed to two single coils interacting.

8

This is the first I've heard about Rose Robusta pickups (though I'm pretty sheltered on boutique brands). I googled them and it appears Ken has closed up shop at the end of Aug.

– dimmy

Damn… I’ve used two sets of his pickups. I hate to see that. I would have ordered some more if I’d known about that deadline.

Next, I guess I’ll try Billy Zoom’s suggestions for the Dimarzio “Red Velvet” line.

sorry to derail.

9

I did that. The Red Velvets totally jump started my Strat.

10

This is the first I've heard about Rose Robusta pickups (though I'm pretty sheltered on boutique brands). I googled them and it appears Ken has closed up shop at the end of Aug.

– dimmy

Given the "tone" of some of the updates on the page about the wait time, I think he probably got sick of people pestering him about the lead/wait time on the pickups and called it quits. If that's the case, it would probably have been useful to hire a family member or college kid for an hour a day to handle the communication or something so he was shielded from it. Not a great place to be.

11

Thanks Neatone. This is the information I am trying to understand. Have you tried this 'configuration' before and if so, why doesn't it 'quack'?

– dimmy

As far as I understand, it won't quack because the quack is caused by the pickups being reversed in polarity compared to one another. A humbucking pickup doesn't have a polarity in the same way because it's essentially cancelling its polarity out to avoid hum.

You could probably achieve "quack" by using a dynasonic in the middle instead of a 'tron.

Someone please correct my information if I'm wrong on the "whys."


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