Pedals

SDRUM?…hmmm….

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So I’ve been conceptualizing using a guitar to trigger drum samples on the odd silly gig hither and thither, thusly playing drums but using a guitar. This SDRUM has me curious if I can use that for such an endeavor. Would any of you fine folks have any experience with it, and could I use it to do that to which I previously referred?

Note: not interested in programming patterns, just drumming live.

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seems like the short way around the block would be a guitar/MIDI setup with each string assigned to a different sample. i think this is how Future Man from the Flecktones started adapting the SynthAxe, to which he added a number of pad triggers. of course, it's only the short way if you can drive on the information superhighway.

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It's a matter of what you want to do. As I read it, S-DRUM (a dumb name...why didn't they make it clear and call it StrumDrum?) uses rhythmic patterns from the guitar to analyze which of its programmed "grooves" to use with your pattern, then syncs to the rhythm of the guitar.

I don't get the sense that you can directly trigger particular samples and play them manually from the string/fret grid of the guitar.

I'm with macphiz on this: if that's the aim, a guitar-to-MIDI converter - here's one in iOS (Jam Origin's MIDI Guitar 2 https://www.jamorigin.com/p...) - turns plainol lectric guitar output into MIDI messages. You could then map particular string-fret coordinates on the guitar to MIDI notes triggering drum samples in another MIDI application - all of it in iOS, so the gear load amounts to the iPad and interface to get your guitar in and audio out.

But I haven't done it (we all know I have no business triggering drums from a guitar), so I can't provide more than that process overview.

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I've always been curious about SDRUM. It seems to offer a little more creative input than the similar Trio, at the expense of the bass part...

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I've done a few gigs where I'm playing the bass drum and hi hat with a mounted tambourine with my feet, playing guitar with my hands and singing. Admittedly the beats are basic, the guitar playing is a little stiff and suffers a bit and while the singing is and has to be the main focus it's also not 100% because of everything that is going on at once. I don't have the desire to really focus on the one man band thing but playing like this is a fun challenge to pursue. This 2 song set happened to be filmed and I'm sitting behind the house kit with my Casino plugged directly into the board. Other times I've attempted this I bring an amp, a bass drum and the tambourined hi hat.

Knowing your talent I bet you would take this ball and run in your own direction with it. Keep it organic!

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I've done a few gigs where I'm playing the bass drum and hi hat with a mounted tambourine with my feet, playing guitar with my hands and singing. Admittedly the beats are basic, the guitar playing is a little stiff and suffers a bit and while the singing is and has to be the main focus it's also not 100% because of everything that is going on at once. I don't have the desire to really focus on the one man band thing but playing like this is a fun challenge to pursue. This 2 song set happened to be filmed and I'm sitting behind the house kit with my Casino plugged directly into the board. Other times I've attempted this I bring an amp, a bass drum and the tambourined hi hat.

Knowing your talent I bet you would take this ball and run in your own direction with it. Keep it organic!

– BuddyHollywood

Nicely done, BuddyHollywood! You're right, there's a whole lot going on, I can only imagine how difficult it is to sort it all out and play it smoothly. You're doing great job of it.

I resently purchased Singular Sounds Beat Buddy Drum Machine Pedal (w/additional two button footswitch) and their Aeros Loop Studio. I'm just getting going with it, but the Beat Buddy does exactly what you're doing, only electronically. The hundreds of pre-recorded drum tracks are very organic. You can have different parts ie: intro, verse, chorus, and outro's, and the fills are varied, and not the same thing over and over, but it can also be programmed with your own tracks.

Now add the Aeros Loop Studio, and you have the ability to actually be a "one man band". The technology is state of the art, very cutting edge, with an easily managed learning curve. This is the queen mother of loopers, and is more like a self contained recording studio. I've only scratched the surface on the Aeros Loop Studio and Beat Buddy. I've only owned them for a couple of weeks, but so far I'm extremely impressed with both of them!

I bought both of them from Sweetwater (you need to buy the MIDI cable to connect Beat Buddy with the Aeros as well). They're a bit pricey, the Beat Buddy is $299, the Aeros Loop Studio is $599, and the MIDI connector is $12.95, or $910.95 (plus tax) for all three. The cost can be considered an investment, if this is the sort of thing you are interested in. IMO, I doubt that you will find anything better.

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That was great Buddy!

I have a little "stomp box" I made, which is just a pine wood box with a piezo transducer and a couple tambourine jangles attached. I can plug it into my bass amp and it almost sounds like a kick drum, with a little sizzle from the tambourine jangles. Just have to work on my technique.

I'd love to try the kick drum and hi-hat thing though. Add the singing, and that's some serious multitasking!

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I love the Digitech Trio as it delivers all I need to work on my solos and spur creativity. My only regret is that I bought a few months before the more dynamic Trio Plus came out.

I think I know what Otter is looking for but this little pedal has the name right!!

https://www.sweetwater.com/...


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