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Gibson on the brink..

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Well that's all good for sax players but what has Gibson done to improve the electric guitar, lately?

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It'll take a rethink on the Gibson brand, and what Epiphone will be too. A buyout of one or the other, or both together?

I would think at this point, Gibson and Epiphone are inseparable. Epiphone exists almost solely for the purpose of producing budget versions of Gibson models. As a separate entity, without Gibson's intellectual property, they'd have very little value.

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That's too bad because originally Epiphone was it's own thing producing it's own unique guitars. I think Gibsons are ridiculously overpriced

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It'll take a rethink on the Gibson brand, and what Epiphone will be too. A buyout of one or the other, or both together?

I would think at this point, Gibson and Epiphone are inseparable. Epiphone exists almost solely for the purpose of producing budget versions of Gibson models. As a separate entity, without Gibson's intellectual property, they'd have very little value.

– Afire

I used to think that too, but have changed my thoughts with what is presently going on.

If the two were separated and sold individually to different buyers, Epi could continue, and pay a small "fee" to Gibson for each unit sold. That would give the new Gibson owner(s) some money coming in, without production involvement/distribution involvement, and they could get Gibson starting out as Gibson.

Again, different buyers would have a lot to work out to get this put together, but I think that it's a possibility that could be good for both new Epiphone and Gibson companies.

Maybe I'm nuts, but I do think that this could happen with the right two buyers, and all the stars and moon aligned.

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Imagine if Epiphone went back to building high quality archtops.

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IMO, Henry dug his own grave when he continued to only push Gibson as a "lifestyle brand" instead of an actual manufacturer of guitars. There just aren't enough wealthy Boomers out there to support it as a "lifestyle brand". That always sounded like a "harley davidson" move.

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Imagine if Epiphone went back to building high quality archtops.

– Ric12string

Epiphone have the ability if they are given a chance. This 50th Anniversary Casino was built in their Chinese factory and I got to compare it to a real 1961 and it's a faithful reproduction. It has a Switchcraft jack and switch, full sized pots and Gibson P90 pickups. I recorded with it recently and it's awesome. I would love a nitro finished ES 330 but I'm a working guy with a family. I can't afford that kind of luxury. My Gretsch Duo Jet already pushed my spending limits back in 2012.

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I almost bought one of those giant blonde Zephry emporer regent while on tour in San Fran 30 years ago, What a beautiful beast it was and three pickups!

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Epiphone have the ability if they are given a chance. This 50th Anniversary Casino was built in their Chinese factory and I got to compare it to a real 1961 and it's a faithful reproduction. It has a Switchcraft jack and switch, full sized pots and Gibson P90 pickups. I recorded with it recently and it's awesome. I would love a nitro finished ES 330 but I'm a working guy with a family. I can't afford that kind of luxury. My Gretsch Duo Jet already pushed my spending limits back in 2012.

– BuddyHollywood

But the beauty of the Casino was that it was a student grade instrument that rocked as good as much more expensive guitars. It still does, and its no-frills appeal is as relevant as ever, especially since US wages remain stagnant after more than 40 years of strong economic growth...

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https://www.musicradar.com/...

Problem solved.

– Afire

In that article, it was reported, "In a recent, wide-ranging interview, Juszkiewicz discussed Gibson’s future, noting the troubles faced by musical instrument retail and the guitar industry’s unwillingness to embrace innovation."

That embodies why Henry J is not the right guy for that position. That he keeps trying to force feed the public with "innovation" when the public isn't seeking innovation, shows that he is not agile enough to adapt. He made a mistake and then doubles down on it rather than recognizing that guitar players are okay with the guitars that they have grown up with and that innovation simply isn't something that compels them. It's like that old adage, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

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In that article, it was reported, "In a recent, wide-ranging interview, Juszkiewicz discussed Gibson’s future, noting the troubles faced by musical instrument retail and the guitar industry’s unwillingness to embrace innovation."

That embodies why Henry J is not the right guy for that position. That he keeps trying to force feed the public with "innovation" when the public isn't seeking innovation, shows that he is not agile enough to adapt. He made a mistake and then doubles down on it rather than recognizing that guitar players are okay with the guitars that they have grown up with and that innovation simply isn't something that compels them. It's like that old adage, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

– Ric12string

There's also the adage, "Necessity is the mother of invention", not "Invention is the mother of necessity".

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Sometimes trying to "create the market" leads to epic failure. Anyone here have one of these in their living room?

(I've played this. That's a full 88 note keyboard, to give you some size perspective)

But there are times when no matter the gin joint..

You must remember this- a piano is still a piano, a guitar is just a guitar. The fundamental things, and all the rest of that.

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Apparently some senior luthier staff at the custom shop is being let go. The brand is obviously going to stay around, but the CS and the Bozeman acoustic factory are the two best things about it.

life lesson that I've been on both sides of - the suits will always find someone else's job or pay to cut first.

https://www.nashvillepost.c...

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I don't see that helping them, JMO.

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In that article, it was reported, "In a recent, wide-ranging interview, Juszkiewicz discussed Gibson’s future, noting the troubles faced by musical instrument retail and the guitar industry’s unwillingness to embrace innovation."

That embodies why Henry J is not the right guy for that position. That he keeps trying to force feed the public with "innovation" when the public isn't seeking innovation, shows that he is not agile enough to adapt. He made a mistake and then doubles down on it rather than recognizing that guitar players are okay with the guitars that they have grown up with and that innovation simply isn't something that compels them. It's like that old adage, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

– Ric12string

You nailed it!

I don't want innovations on already established musical instruments. I buy musical instruments for the sounds they make. Imagine if the Ludwig drum company wanted to innovate the tom tom. I don't want robot tuners on my drums!

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I don't see that helping them, JMO.

– Suprdave

You never know. Maybe those guys were making a few million dollars per month. Big savings!

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In the words of Kurt Cobain "oh well, whatever, nevermind. . .

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Good discussion but first they bemoan innovation.....then tradition !

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These guys have some interesting points.

– BuddyHollywood

These three are technically wrong on so many issues. I don’t know who these experts are but they need to edit their video. It’s okay to have an opinion but the facts have to be correct, just ask Joe Friday.

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The latest news on Gibson from Henry

– Suprdave

This man (Henry J) reeks of incompetence. Stuck in his own little bubble. He does not understand his market.

I'm not against innovation but innovation is a means to an end. There's no need for innovation for the sake of innovation. It's like trying to find a problem for your sollution.

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Well, you can't entirely dismiss the fact that he rescued Gibson from its lowest Norlin-era point and ran it very successfully for twenty-some years. It seems like stubbornness is one of his problems. He sounds obsessed with sticking to decisions/approaches that clearly haven't worked out.


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