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One Wah-Wah to RULE them All!

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Picked this up about a week ago (MC404 CAE Wah). Traded my Ernie Ball Wah in on it. Best trade I've made in a long time. Best wah I've ever heard. Period. And I've heard/had most of 'em. Anyone looking for a new toy would do well to audition one of these. Now 'scuse me while I go play the theme from "SHAFT"...can you dig it?...8-)

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Does it have a true bypass switch? I use a VOX and it has an OK bypass, but it's not true. I'm eventually going to get Modest Mike to do his magic on it.

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TRUE Bypass on board. Bob Bradshaw of Custom Audio Electronics designed it. The MC-404 CAE Wah pedal features dual Fasel inductors...one voice emphasizes high-end while the other voice features low to mid resonance. One of my favorite features is a built-in MXR MC-401 Boost/LineDriver that is perfect for setting a custom level without the addition of annoying artifacts often associated with built in volume boosters. Other goodies include a custom designed CTS extended life low noise potentiometer and internal pots to adjust “Q” and gain. But above all the tones are beautifully focused and are pure classic. Trust me...this one's the real McCoy.

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Tell me more about this. I have a Reese RMC1 wah that is very cool, but thinking there may be a more magical fit for Dynas out there. Was doing a funk/RnB thing on the gig the other night -- wahs and Gretsch in a funk setting arent that common, but its a good fit!

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Hey Mustafa! How goes it? The CAE has, to my ear an unusual transparency to it's vibe. In other words it allows the individual character of your instrument to shine through, while providing the proper center of gravity for the wah-tone that the instrument is trying to sing naturally. Kinda like the way a human's voice can cover the same tonal frequency as another human voice might, but with it's own unique color/timbre. Sounds as good with the T-Rose as it does with the Tele.

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IHi! It goes well, and you ?

that sounds intriguing indeed. The particular Resse I have is voiced rather dark, which did well when i was in low C tuning, but there's probably a better fit out there now. It also tends to be too hot, adding some clipping to the effects down the chain.

Post some clips :)

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Not bad man. Not bad. :) As usual I can talk a good show but can't upload proof because of my snails-paced dial-up. I believe though that there may be some clips you can check out on the Dunlop site. I CAN tell you that the two Fasels on the CAE cover the brite/dark thing flawlessly and is very easy to move from one voicing to the other - via a handy little kick switch on the side. For someone with your ear/experience, my suggestion would be to take the Reese along to the shop and try it side by side with the CAE. Given what I know of your tastes, I think you just might find yourself grinning in short order.8-)

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Its a very nicely built wah with plenty of variable for tweaking, although you cant upgrade much since its all surface mount components other than the hot potz and fasel inductors. I like the switchable inductors, stuff like that is fun. Although its not built by custom audio electronics, its completely built by Dunlop.

It would be good to see how it stacks up against the Teese wah (the RMC3 has a plethora of mini dip switches inside, that the RMC1 doesnt) as there isnt much better out of the box than the Teese or the Fulltone.

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Hey WT! Good to have you chiming in. As always, your informed and encyclopedic commentary is most welcome. Never tried the RMC series but I have used the Fulltone on occasion - a buddy of mine has one. Excellent piece as well. But for my money I don't find it quite as "authentic" or as vibey sounding as the CAE. Not to mention the aesthetic. Redheads vs Blonds I guess. :) I haven't actually toyed with the internal pots on the CAE yet but I find the settings on my unit to be well centered indeed. As for upgrading components - not really my thing so can't speak on that front. Love that built in MC-401 though. Never heard a better line driver. Too bad it can't be used as a separate circuit...8-)

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The CAE was my 1st wah, loved it, but it wouldn't play well with fuzes. Most wahs don't... FoxRox makes a buffer you install in the wah that makes it "fuzz friendly." But they don't make on for the CAE, so I sold it, started looking for something better... meaning, something that would either take the buffer kit or something that already had it.

Went thru a bunch of different wahs, but none sounded like the CAE... especially the red fasel side, which I use exclusively. So I ended up right back where I started. I don't use the boost, I don't use the yellow fasel side, it's more wah than I need, but NOTHING sounds like that red fasel side.

And it's not just the red fasel, it the way the pedal is voiced. I tried other wahs with red fasels, and believe me- the fasel has alot les to do with the tone thatn you would think!

It's still not fuzz friendly, but I decided to put my wah after my fuzzes (instead of before, which is apparently the norm), and it works fine. actually, the wah is almost the last thing on my pedalboard... i go into fuzz first, then some dirt, then a buffer, then all my modulation pedals, then into the wah. not sure why, but the arrangement I have works well, and the sweep of the wah is not narrowed like it usually is when you put it after a fuzz. It sounds great.

The only other wah I'm willing to buy/try is the new AMT Japanese Girl wah- only because it has a voicing switch, and because it's the size of a Boss pedal!! 8-o

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Been using this wah for a couple of weeks now. Just keeps growing on me. Haven't had the problem ruger9 speaks of above. Actually, just the opposite. In line with my Maxon OD - MXR Custom Comp - CAE Wah (in that order) I'm getting killer tones across the board.8-)

Not often I get a pedal that actually inspires me and improves my sound. I'm here to tell ya - this one does...

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thats awesome.... I really do have to try this one out. Was using the Reese 1 wah a lot in rehearsal today, and its just not happy with T-Armond pickups :(

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General Lee:

the problem is when you run it with a FUZZ. But I have solved that problem, as I like my wah WAY down the line in my fx chain, after all my dirt, so it turned out alright (long story short.)

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BTW Mustafa, I'm using it with "General Lee" (my stock 52 tele hot rod). Sounds primo in all positions. There is a SD mini humbucker up front and an overwound lead pup. I actually use the middle position quite lot for wah work. Unusual for me, as I've tended to gravitate to one pickup or the other in the past. Must admit, I have tried it with the T-Rose yet. One thrill at a time. :)

Don't know exactly what the T-Armond's sound like but something tells me you could dial this one in very quickly.

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General Lee:

the problem is when you run it with a FUZZ. But I have solved that problem, as I like my wah WAY down the line in my fx chain, after all my dirt, so it turned out alright (long story short.)

– ruger9

General Lee:

the problem is when you run it with a FUZZ. But I have solved that problem, as I like my wah WAY down the line in my fx chain, after all my dirt, so it turned out alright (long story short.)

– ruger9

good on you Babba Louie!:D

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T-armonds are the TV Jones take on Dynasonics.... i also like wah in the middle position, its just perfect for funky rhythm material...

Teles and wah are a match made in heaven -- i had a Squire Classic Vibe Tele for a while that was big fun, and i did a lot of wah with it -- they were made for each other :)

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No argument there Mustafa. BTW "General Lee" is my first ash/maple tele. The fact that it is essentially a '52 reissue pleases me no end. Neck/feel/action IS perfect as is the translucent Butterscotch finish. The combination of woods & pickups give me the "tweed" era tele sound I've been craving all the days of my career. It is a remarkable piece. Loves all pedals immensely - especially the MXR Custom Comp and of course - the new Wah! Have fun testing out the CAE when you find one, and let me know your own thoughts/conclusions - whatever you find.8-)

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You know, I've been using a Morley "Bad Horsie" wah and I really ilk it. No switch to stomp, since it's optical so it turns on with slight foot pressure and turns off when you release your foot (yeah, you can't do the cocked way Michael Schenker trick with it). But, it sounds good and it's built pretty solidly.

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I think when youre gonna talk about a wah pedal, you should always present your wah paradigm or it becomes like a bad united nations meeting with everyone speaking in their own language.

I say this because the second I see a guy pop in to a boutique wah discussion and say he uses a Morley Bad Horsie optical wah, and I write him off as one of those sunday afternoon guitar center browsing, ceramic mag gretsch players that thinks Tom Petty's Mojo album is the oracle for the ages

and if he see's me pop in here

all like Rockabilly'd out and wooh dude So.Cal is like sooo NOT in alaska like Nor Cal bro!...

then HE, in turn,
wont write me off as the disco hits wah master if I say that I use a Dunlop Jimi Hendrix wah with a NOS thomas organ era TDK inductor with matched BC109 metal can transistors and carbon comp resistors and my favorite wah sound is Jerry Cantrell's Alice in Chains meets John Frusciante's Chili Pepper wah sound.

:P

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...me, I just like the sound of a good wah... 8-o :)

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Ha! I've considering adding my old crybaby wah to my board. It totally eats up the treble though, thinking about getting a new one.

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While I love my RMC's, I'd love to test a Fulltone Cylde. I've seen some YouTube clips that trip my trigger.

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I think when youre gonna talk about a wah pedal, you should always present your wah paradigm or it becomes like a bad united nations meeting with everyone speaking in their own language.

I say this because the second I see a guy pop in to a boutique wah discussion and say he uses a Morley Bad Horsie optical wah, and I write him off as one of those sunday afternoon guitar center browsing, ceramic mag gretsch players that thinks Tom Petty's Mojo album is the oracle for the ages

and if he see's me pop in here

all like Rockabilly'd out and wooh dude So.Cal is like sooo NOT in alaska like Nor Cal bro!...

then HE, in turn,
wont write me off as the disco hits wah master if I say that I use a Dunlop Jimi Hendrix wah with a NOS thomas organ era TDK inductor with matched BC109 metal can transistors and carbon comp resistors and my favorite wah sound is Jerry Cantrell's Alice in Chains meets John Frusciante's Chili Pepper wah sound.

:P

– TheNocturneBrain.com

I think when youre gonna talk about a wah pedal, you should always present your wah paradigm or it becomes like a bad united nations meeting with everyone speaking in their own language.

I say this because the second I see a guy pop in to a boutique wah discussion and say he uses a Morley Bad Horsie optical wah, and I write him off as one of those sunday afternoon guitar center browsing, ceramic mag gretsch players that thinks Tom Petty's Mojo album is the oracle for the ages

and if he see's me pop in here

all like Rockabilly'd out and wooh dude So.Cal is like sooo NOT in alaska like Nor Cal bro!...

then HE, in turn,
wont write me off as the disco hits wah master if I say that I use a Dunlop Jimi Hendrix wah with a NOS thomas organ era TDK inductor with matched BC109 metal can transistors and carbon comp resistors and my favorite wah sound is Jerry Cantrell's Alice in Chains meets John Frusciante's Chili Pepper wah sound.

:P

– WIREDTURTLE here SINCE2002

That's an interesting point... kind of like masala chai, everyone's got their own idea of what it should taste like.

I've had a CryBaby in the past. It was ok. I have one of the early Slash Cry Baby wahs as well, but I just couldn't stand the gotta stomp a button and be forced to start in the treble position paradigm of those wahs pedals.

Although I do like my wah funky and on the porno soundtrack side, the mainstay wah sound for me is in much harder music. Really like the way Slash uses wah and Joe Bonamassa as well. Vai, he's a great player, not my favorite but I do like his playing from time to time. I think the thing I like most about the Bad Horsie wah is instant on, instant off.

That way, when I'm down at guitar center on the weekends, I can play Voodoo Chile without missing the wah kick off because I forgot to step down far enough on the pedal. :P :P


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