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Another thread brought up the existence of this thing called an oil can delay. I thought it was so neat, it should get its own thread.

Here is a great YouTube demoing a restored Fender unit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1WyyxxNwps

Here is a Geocities page that talked about it that someone found and posted: http://www.geofex.com/Article_Folders/oil_can_delays.htm

From the perspective of retro-cool, I like the sound. An analog pedal is so much easier to handle, of course, but that oil can disc adds a neat texture to the sound.

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They're cool, but maintenance is a bitch, and when the oil dries up, replacement oil is quite expensive and difficult to come by-- it's a very special oil with semi-magnetic properties. And now that they're classified as "vintage" equipment, the prices have begun to get really stupid on working examples.

Tel-Ray/Morley were the original designers of the unit, and built the Fender ones as well. Morley even had a foot-pedal version in the 70's-- the Morley RWV pedal.

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Sweet! I knew about disk delays, just never heard one before. I like how it creates that soft mellow attack on the echo, rather than give it a sharp reproduction of the pick dynamics. Lovely and very cool.8-) Thanks for sharing.:)

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I have one, and while it doesn't always work well with my other equipment it has a sound all its own. I missed a class one day because I was so mesmerized by it! I don't think the oil is really that expensive, and it's often available on ebay.

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The only oil that will work properly is Union Carbide "Ucon" LB-65-- it runs around $20-25 for 4 ounces. $6.25 per ounce-- that's not very cheap in my book for an ounce of viscous liquid. Still, it usually only takes 1-1.5 ounces to refill the can, so you should get 2-3 good refills out of a 4-ounce supply.

Another thing... if you find a "dead" unit and you are hoping to resurrect it, make sure that the disc inside the can is not corroded... if it is, you just bought a doorstop.

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So, to recreate this oil can delay in a completely new package would probably cost way too much money now?

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Morley still holds the patents for the design. I'm surprised that they haven't re-issued it as a pricey "boutique" style pedal, though. However, I doubt if there's enough of a market for it. The Tel-Ray oil can crowd is a devoted bunch, but relatively few in numbers.

Morley seems more concerned with appealing to the hard rock crowd with "signature" pedals by Steve Vai, George Lynch, Mark Tremonti, etc.

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Cool! Great video. Thanks for posting.

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tartan phantom wrote:

They're cool, but maintenance is a bitch, and when the oil dries up, replacement oil is quite expensive and difficult to come by-- it's a very special oil with semi-magnetic properties. And now that they're classified as "vintage" equipment, the prices have begun to get really stupid on working examples.

Tel-Ray/Morley were the original designers of the unit, and built the Fender ones as well. Morley even had a foot-pedal version in the 70's-- the Morley RWV pedal.

Tel Ray Oil Can Echo Ucon LB-65 Fluid is always available on ebay per 2 oz. from this guy. $14 a bottle http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-oz-Tel-Ray-Oil-Can-Echo-Ucon-LB-65-Fluid-/220634549685?p...

Adineko oil can delays are a silly mess but fun contraptions.

the Fender units usually had the tel-rey/adineko memory system name on the back plate

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Kinda cool, it works off the same principle as a computer's HDD, albeit much, much slower ;-)

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My Morley EDL needs repair.

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My Morley stereo ECHO-VOLUME EVO-1A Bought late 1979. Just taken pictures hope they work OK a novice with new camera.

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Hey if you can't get'em working they make a hell-of-a good paperweight. :P

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note the 1 input jack socket and 2 output jacks for stereo connections. the dely on the stereo echo can be a bit offputting if you are using 2 separate amps to play through...takes a bit of getting used to. Well worth the time and effort to find out the full potential of this pedal.


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