Other guitar-y things

My guitars + my amp + my pedals

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I got my first pedal less than two years ago, in the fall of 2018. Prior to that, I only used the footswitch that came with my amp.

And I've only owned two amps in my life... an old Fender Princeton Chorus that had a two button switch, chorus and distortion, and then my AC30 with the reverb and tremolo. Oh wait, almost forgot my new Vox Mini Superbeetle.

Not counting my Boss tuner pedal and SDRUM pedal (a little drum machine for home recording) I have four pedals. All Keeley and I love them. My Compressor Plus, 1962X Overdrive, Memphis Sun and DynoMyRoto (stupid name that one).

Now, having had my Penguin for about two weeks and my G5420T for about two years I've come to two conclusions:

My Gretsches love the Memphis Sun pedal (designed to emulate those great Sun Records sounds - reverb, double tracking, sweet snapback) and they don't really like my OD pedal much at all.

My Casino and Sheraton love my OD and I love the tones. My Penguin and 5420... probably not going to use much dirt with them.

I've read quite a few threads here and on some other boards about how a Gretsch can be really, really picky with OD pedals and as you may recall from my NGD thread, I can't seem to get an OD tone I like with my Penguin.

I tamed the warble I was getting by adjusting the pole pieces and lowering the pickups a bit. And clean or with reverb... damn, why did I wait so long to get a Proline... but maybe it's my ears getting used to the chambered mahogany, maybe it's the sustain that won't quit, maybe I need further tweak... I don't know.

Chords are ok, pretty crisp. But leads, especially if I'm playing two strings, there's overtone and I lose clarity on all but the B and E strings. Will more tweaks to the pickups help much or is it a case of this pedal just doesn't play nice with Gretsch?

I have noticed these TV Jones Classics seem very senstive too. I tend to use a lighter touch with both Gretsches but with my Penguin, if I strike chords a little harder I get a little breakup like I'm pushing my amp.

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The pickups are probably less compressed than what you’re used to and what your pedals are geared for. Gretsch + Filtertron = huge range in both volume and frequencies. If you get everything right, it’s awesome. If you get everything right. Good thing is, there are a lot of fun ways to get it right.

Check out some Nocturne pedals. An Atomic Brain into a DC Fluid Drive yields some really nice tones.

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Pedals:

– Billy Zoom

Kahuna switch?

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If I could get my hands on a Kahuna that would probably be my setup too

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Cool Billy. I enlarged the image of the panel and was able to read the lettering, except for the first input. What ya got there?

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The main issue with a Filter'tron Gretsch and overdrive is that it can turn to mud very easily. All that crisp, twangy goodness can get lost quickly. I've had good luck with "Marshall" sounding ODs, such as the Menatone King of the Britains and the Rockett Majestic , Blue Note and Caliber 45. The Rockett pedals in particular work really well with my SSLVO and '59 VS Jet.

Recently I modified an Xotic BB circuit and found my favourite Gretsch overdrive yet. The BB can be a bit over-midranged so I found a way of increasing the potential low end and reducing the mids a little and it works so well with a Gretsch. Unfortunately that's not good to you unless you can solder!

I know it's verging on heresy around here but I have had no luck whatsoever with any Nocturne pedals. I haven't tried them all - the delay looks cool - but the preamps and drives just don't work for me for whatever reason. And I avoid Tube Screamer style pedals as they just lose low end and add mud. The only time I like a TS is if I want the sound on "Rumble in Brighton".

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Well, my Keeley 1962X is designed to emulate the Marshall Bluesbreaker. It has two modes - KT66 and KT88. I may play around a bit more between the Penguin's pickups, the pedal's settings and my amp.

I'm very much used to "set and forget" so dialing it in for a new guitar is... well, new. And I swear my ears get pickier as I get older.

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Cool Billy. I enlarged the image of the panel and was able to read the lettering, except for the first input. What ya got there?

– Journeyman

It says: More

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It says: More

– Danman

So I guess it would bring in another stage; half a tube maybe? Or maybe the 2nd input is just attenuated a bit and the first one is wide open? Nice looking amp. What do you like for speakers Billy.

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I found the best OD pedal for me overall is the modded Blues Driver. Often found other drive pedals are muddy. Or whenever I hear 'fat... brown... creamy... woman tone'... I run!

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My go-to is a Keeley-modded Blues Driver.

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I found the best OD pedal for me overall is the modded Blues Driver. Often found other drive pedals are muddy. Or whenever I hear 'fat... brown... creamy... woman tone'... I run!

– Vince_Ray

How was it modded?

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I wish I had the talent to pull off the simplicity that Billy Z can with just his fingers and a decent set up. I need all the help I can get.

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How was it modded?

– Calebaaron666

Dunno really, but the Keeley mod is probably what was done. I bought it that way on ebay. Mine doesn't have a switch, it's just permanently Keeleyed (if that's a word!)

In some ways. it's not that I'm a massive fan, but it doesn't do the things that I DON'T like about other overdrives. On a low gain, it just adds a bit of grit and takes out some of the 'boom' that bugs me. Plus, it just gets me into the sonic area that I like whatever the amp volume. If I can turn an amp up in a bigger venue, I don't use any drive pedal.

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My Keeley 1962X is perfect... for everything except Gretsch. Rhythm is fab, lead... heh. Not so much.

So, I just won't be doing much lead work with my Gretsches and OD. Which is a little sad but fine. After all, I bought different guitars for different tones. :)


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