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Twin Reverb RI Vs. DRRI

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I went down this road years ago, and decided that the broad, clean headroom of the twin suited my playing best. Sure, the twin ri is heavy, but I'm glad that I bought it.

Good luck with your endeavor.

Dylan

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You can switch to a lower gain 12AY7 tube in V1 and tame a Twin Reverb considerably for playing at low volumes. This also gives a very sweet tone.

I've owned both an original and reissue Twin Reverbs and side with the group thinking vintage amps sound more musical. YMMV.

If you widen the search to include older classic Fenders either a Pro Reverb or Blond/BF Bandmaster would be worth a look. They've got half the power of the mighty Twin, sound great and would be somewhat easier on the back. Dollys and casters help but at some point you have to lift the amp into the trunk or back seat.

After hernia surgery in December my days of carrying the '65TRRI are over :(

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Ahh man...just buy one of each. I loved my Twin RI and I'm diggin' my DRRI.

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I owned a DRRI for a number of years and loved it. They are great amps. Fabulous, really. They can do a lot of styles and gig sizes. They take pedals well. And, unless you have a super heavy handed drummer at an outside gig, you should be fine.

BUT, I currently own two 40 watt 2x10 Fender Amps... and frighteningly, I can play them at lower volumes than I ever could the DRRI and I still get a sweet tone.

What does this have to do with the Twin? Well, I recently tried a Twin (while testing a guitar in a store) and found that I had that same low volume ability out of the twin.

I love my two Fender amps and am very torn as to whether to chase down a Twin. But, if I was going to only own one, it would be the Twin. Yes, they are heavy and a pain to get in and out of the car trunk, carry up a flight of stairs, etc. But they are not impossible.

I say get the Twin (Vintage or Reissue). They are awesome sounding.

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I have owned both Twins and Deluxes. I vastly prefer the sound of the Twin. It is huge and fat, and at the same time airy and glassy. I have a bunch of amps, both Fender and boutique, but I always love plugging into the twin. It is heavy, but not that muck more than other 2 x 12" combos, and lighter than an AC30 and several other comperable combos.

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A Deluxe may or may not be loud enough for a band. You can definitely run your vocals through the Normal channel of the Twin though. That's actually what the other channel was for. None of the Fender reissues will sound as good as the real thing, but they're OK. You might want to upgrade the speakers in a Twin. They aren't the best sounding and they blow out a lot. FWIW, the Pro Reverb was a lot louder than the Deluxe and had a better tone than the Twin Reverb. I don't know whether or not they make a reissue. Is there any way you could be talked into an original 70's Fender instead of a reissue? They sound better and are MUCH more reliable. BZ

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I, too, have owned both the Twin and Deluxe.... Overall, my vote goes for the Twin, with some "taming" as per TomfromPA's advice above. I made that change in my Twin. It made the amp much more controlable for home use (and small gigs), but it still had enough power for all else (assuming you're not playing for a full house at Yankee Stadium without mikes). The "mod" gave a greater range of tone options between volume levels 1 through 3. At home, with stock tubes, anything much above volume level 1-2 would mean your living room practice sessions could be heard by your neighbors.....

Heavy? Yes. Get a dolly.

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I'm sorry, but I owned a Twin and a Vox AC30TBR at the same time, and sometimes had them both onstage for switching between, and the Vox was noticebly lighter than the Twin. (It was a 72, though, so maybe those PCBs lighten the weight ;-) ). Chris, you can always avoid the hernia surgery that both Tom and I have had as a result of lifting these combos by turning it into a head like this:

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If it was me, I would take Billy's advice and look for a used 70's Twin or, better yet, Pro Reverb. I've got a friend using a silverface pro and the tone is awesome...it is plenty (incredibly) loud and clean. With the older handwired amps, you can basically keep replacing the parts; I think the newer ones have a shorter, more definite life span. Another friend has a silverface twin and he was bemoaning the fact that the used sale price is the same or lower than a Deluxe. That would be to your advantage.

Buy some good ear plugs. Really.

35

Chris, where in the world are you located?

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Sligo,

Not to be argumentative, but I just looked it up, the AC30 weighs 71 lbs and the Twin weighs 64 lbs. One of the other guys I used to play with had an egnator that weighed 105 lbs.

37

I love my 90's American made DRRI. I clipped the bright cap, rebiased it and retubed it. It already had a Weber Jensen copy in it when I bought it. You can't beat the tremelo and reverb.

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My experience with the DRRI is that if you have a loud rock band, you may find yourself trying to keep up at rehearsal. You can play a stadium with a little pignose, if it's mic'd. If you can get your tone, smaller is always better for gigging(less gear weight). So, it really depends on your situation. Loud Rock band with no PA Backup...Twin. Lower Volume Act with PA Backup at venues...DRRI

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When did they stop selling the '59 Twin?

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I checked a couple of the online stores and it does seem the '57 RI Low Power (2 6L6,40-50 watts)Tweed Twin isn't there anymore.It was the same price as the Clapton sig Twinolux,so I'd guess Fender didn't want to compete with itself.They never re-issued the '59 High Power(85 watts,4 6L6) Tweed Twin,which IMO would have been a much smarter choice than the '57 they did re-issue. :(

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"One of the other guys I used to play with had an egnator that weighed 105 lbs."

Dave1: I once tried to pick up a Mesa Boogie Tremoverb 2x12 combo. I think it was bolted to the shop floor.

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I am located in Orange County, CA. I have no idea even where to start looking for a 70's Pro or Twin. Billy, any shops near the Orange Circle or Anaheim that would have these amps?

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Sligo,

Not to be argumentative, but I just looked it up, the AC30 weighs 71 lbs and the Twin weighs 64 lbs. One of the other guys I used to play with had an egnator that weighed 105 lbs.

– Dave1

Sligo,

Not to be argumentative, but I just looked it up, the AC30 weighs 71 lbs and the Twin weighs 64 lbs. One of the other guys I used to play with had an egnator that weighed 105 lbs.

– Dave1

I'm talking about my 72 Twin, which was spec'd at 69lbs=34kgs (mine weighed 35kgs due to bigger transformers). My AC30TBR weighed in at 28kgs. That's the same as the weight listed on vox.amps for the AC30Custom Classic (60.94lbs). There are other ACs that weigh up to 77lbs, and the handwired AC30 comes in 71lbs, as you state. So, Chris, if you buy brand new, Dave and I have ascertained you will need that muscle with either of these amps! If you pick up a vintage Twin or AC30, the same. Now that someone has mentioned Egnators, and Mesa Boogies, we could start suggesting all sorts of ephemera. From your OP I gather you have a choice between a DRRI or a Twin. The Twin will be heavier...much heavier.:D

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I had some clear thoughts about this the other day, but now they are gone.

Start with Craigslist, the local vintage guitar stores, find a vintage guitar show, read Vintage Guitar magazine.

A list of vintage guitar shows from VG
http://www.vintageguitar.co... http://unfinished-business....

I just had a look through Craigslist

I'm very interested in these amps, they have 1x12" and 2x10", this one looks like a 1x12"
http://orangecounty.craigsl...

Twins
http://orangecounty.craigsl...
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Deluxe
http://orangecounty.craigsl...

Mmm Super
http://orangecounty.craigsl...
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No idea what this might be
http://orangecounty.craigsl...

Other options
http://inlandempire.craigsl...
http://losangeles.craigslis...
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http://orangecounty.craigsl...
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Some of the countless Vintage guitar stores
http://www.gbase.com/stores...

http://www.guitarshowcase.com/
http://www.gbase.com/gear/f...
http://www.rockitmusic.com/...
http://www.californiavintag...
http://www.jayrosen.com/
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Ebay
190647668540  (this can't be a '69?)
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350542076750
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