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Aug 15, 2008 5:40 p.m. crowbone:

You get a good look at it right toward the end of the song

She's Not There
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Aug 16, 2008 9:57 p.m. Bengal65:

Ahh Yes, the days of short guitar straps Here's another, right at the opening. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOCYs_2Fr3o&feature=related
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Aug 16, 2008 10:09 p.m. Proteus:

I always thought The Zombies were the coolest of the cool...that laid-back, buttoned-down hip vibe, the smart grooves, the jazz chords, the keyboard riffing.

And now you show me they were Gretsch too!

I love finding out still another DNA-encoded bit of immortal pop from my childhood incorporated Gretschness, and I had never realized it.

Maybe the subliminal implant of all that Gretschtone is what ripened into my late-life Gretsch revelation.
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Aug 16, 2008 10:39 p.m. 57 Chet :

déjà vu
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Aug 16, 2008 10:53 p.m. Proteus:

That's hilarious!

What, you expect me to reMEMber anything?

I've bequeathed all my memories to the internet, so I don't have to bother anymore.

It may take aNOTher mention before I commit it to gray matter that the Zombies used a Gretsch.

I knew we'd covered a lot of hidden 60s pop classics in a thread before...thanks for finding it.
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Aug 16, 2008 10:59 p.m. 57 Chet :

Ha Ha ... I've got much less/more? gray matter than you ... and I'm a few years younger ... Doh!
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Aug 16, 2008 11:03 p.m. crowbone:

Ooops,

Sorry about the redundant post 57 Chet.

Anytime I try to search archives, I get stuck in nowhere land
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Aug 16, 2008 11:12 p.m. 57 Chet :

Edit - No apologies necessary crowbone ... I love that stuff ... I'm glad that there are some other erudite, wacky, and simpatico folks here ... (1+)

That's what keeps me coming here to make these shabby late night posts...

Hail Proteus!

Ha!
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Aug 17, 2008 12:08 a.m. gretschiam:

Great video clips- thanks.

For what it's worth, I got to see the Zombies at Milwaukee's Summerfest a few weeks ago. No Gretsches on stage, but they were really, really great.
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Aug 17, 2008 1:16 a.m. 57 Chet :

gretschiam-

They got a great review here, at a venue close to me, from the Wash. Post ...

I'm sorry that I missed the show!
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Aug 17, 2008 8:13 a.m. crowbone:

Gretschiam,

Paul Atkinson, the original guitarist for the Zombies had not played with them for years- perhaps that's the reason for no Gretsch on stage.

I'd love to see them live in a small club.
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Aug 18, 2008 9:03 a.m. bobcat:

I played that song every weekend for 4 years straight and I still love it!
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Aug 18, 2008 10:20 a.m. Tsar Nicholas :

The Zombies were impossibly hip. Superbly crafted intellecto-pop.
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Aug 18, 2008 10:39 a.m. Proteus:

"She's Not There" came out in MID-1964. There was nothing remotely like it, and there wouldn't be till the mid-70s. Even then it was dumbed-down and formulaic, and missed all the innovation and hipness of the groove.

It wasn't just that the Zoms were "ahead of their time," it's more like they were completely outSIDE of time, and coming from another dimension as well.

We'd get slick rock keyboards later, and jazz chords. But we never quite got vocal delivery that could be breathy without being wimpy and then range up to rock passion. And it would be a LONG time till we got such smart grooves, combined with the elusive conceptual wit of the songwriting.

They just shoulda been famouser, but there famously ain' no justice.
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Aug 18, 2008 11:17 a.m. bonedaddy:

"Time Of The Season" is probably the 'hookiest' song I can thing of; those guys are just great. And even though Santana put a scorcher of a solo into "She's Not There", I don't think it holds a candle to the original.

Not only were they cool, but they were effortlessly cool , it was just natural. Either that or their act was so tight, so polished that it sure looked natural.
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Aug 18, 2008 11:32 a.m. WFCharlie:

Is there an archive listing all the 60's performers using Gretsch guitars, or are they just spread all over the place?
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Aug 18, 2008 11:42 a.m. sroux:

Hmmm..sounds better than I thought!

I was thinking Zombies with Gretsches would sound more like this...

"Braaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiinnnnnnnnssssssssss"
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Aug 18, 2008 1:34 p.m. Jet-Head:

Rod Argent was one of the founders. Trivia note - he also wrote for other people including Peter and Gordon, "I Go To Pieces" and was co-producer on a Nanci Griffith album.

Prerty well rounded and talented guy.
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Aug 18, 2008 2:36 p.m. DrGretsch:

Hey, The Gretsch looks like a Nashville?

I love the clean tone at one part, espec ,,,
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Aug 18, 2008 2:55 p.m. FrequentFlyer909:

Not to be argumentative, but "I Go to Pieces" was written and originally recorded by Del Shannon.

Paul/FF909
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Aug 18, 2008 3:20 p.m. SaltyDog:

I heartily concur with all the previous positive descriptions of this song and the group. I rediscovered the Zombies a couple of years ago when I heard "She's Not There" on the radio. I immediately had to learn the chords.

And then, as if the Gods were smiling on me, they come to town as part of their North American tour at a local festival called "The Taste of Minnesota", and I get to hear them for free! Sometimes life is good.

I think Colin and Rod have always been underrated.
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Aug 18, 2008 3:51 p.m. Jet-Head:

FreqFlyer909 is correct. "I Go To Pieces" was written by Del Shannon. My MP3 download from Amazon let me down. The info that came "down" with my purchase of "I Go To Pieces" cites the composer as Rod Argent. Multiple other sources (now that I've checked) cite Del Shannon. Isn't that odd?

Thanks for the correction, Paul.
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Aug 18, 2008 4:35 p.m. treblebooster:

Sadly, their best effort was their last: "Oracle and Oddesey"Still one of the masterpieces of 60's pop.
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Aug 18, 2008 5:39 p.m. MarkW:

Zombies - Tell Her No was another biggie!

Gretsches were all over the Brit landscape and that is why the #1 Primo Guitar in my mind was a Gretsch. Didn't Gerry & the Pacemakers play one?

Is that strap high? That's how I still play a guitar with a strap.
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Aug 18, 2008 5:49 p.m. MarkW:

Proteus

The Tremeloe's - "Here Comes My Baby". Heck I didn't even know back in the day they were Brit's, but I knew about the Gretsch.

Beau Brummels played a Gretsch. Always put them in the same class as the Zombies. They were not Beatle's imitators, they had their own sound.