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Analyzing John Lennon

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I stumbled on this video today and I think this guy does a great job highlighting some of the details that made John Lennon's guitar playing in The Beatles so interesting.

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I watched that video last night. I am a big fan of Lennon's rhythm playing. The video's host seems to not have anything good to say about George. He doesn't outright slam George, but he said McCartney played memorable solos and Lennon wrote all the rhythm and possibly leads for George.

Since George is my favorite Beatle, I was taken aback by these statements. George played a lot of kick-ass solos! And he supported Lennon's rhythm playing significantly. Paul did play a few solos, like on Taxman, but I don't find his solos to be better than any of George's necessarily. George was more melodic in his solos than Paul ever was.

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I didn't pick up that he was dissing George but I was listening to this at a low volume at work. I also love George Harrison's guitar playing, singing and songwriting. I stumble when people ask me who my favorite Beatle is.

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I'm not even going to watch it.

Lennon had a rhythm drive like no one else .. scratched out some cool solos, like You Can't Do That, etc. and got an interesting fingerpicking scene going around the time of the White Album.. ie Julia.

Paul played a lot of the off the wall stuff, The Night Before, the Little Ticket to Ride break, Taxman, even wondered if Sgt Pepper intro was him, or Good Morning Good Morning. Goerge was the most technically accomplished, and he and John meshed well, especially live. Sometiemes George just played parts of chords thrugh some songs.

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He says, "George Harrison did some amazing things". He included him in the "great guitar players" of the Beatles. I'm not sure what you want him to say when it is a video about John Lennon.

Is it just me or did that guitar not sound very good? Granted, he was hitting it hard without much finesse, but it just didn't have a very good tone to my ear, at least.

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I found another video where the same guy spends a half hour on I Am The Walrus.

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One thing I got from the video was that I need to get a Casino...

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I'm betting Lennon stumbled into Day Tripper's riff the way I did: By screwing up the riff to Pretty Woman

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The man gives wrong information. The rhythm figure he cites in "This Boy" is NOT a triplet, but two sixteenth notes followed by an eighth, or for those in the UK, two semiquavers followed by a quaver.

And you're right, Ric12string --- it's hard to get a tone that bad on a Casino. The clean sounds muffled and the overdrive sounds like mud.

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The man gives wrong information. The rhythm figure he cites in "This Boy" is NOT a triplet, but two sixteenth notes followed by an eighth, or for those in the UK, two semiquavers followed by a quaver.

And you're right, Ric12string --- it's hard to get a tone that bad on a Casino. The clean sounds muffled and the overdrive sounds like mud.

– Parabar

I am relieved it is not just me.

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Good videos. I like the Casino but also have to agree about the tone here.

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wondered if Good Morning Good Morning was Paul

Yes, that solo is in fact Paul.

The real debate on Beatle solos lies in the fantastic solo on "Hey Bulldog." Most Beatle fanatics conclude it is not Paul, but no one can be sure if it is George or John.

solo at 1:14, George or John? The world may never know.

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Pretty hard to say which one it is in Hey Buldog. But I assume the base track is played with John on piano and George on guitar. Bass is probably overdubbed too since that was the preferred method for Paul since revolver.

Solo is then overdubbed too. From playing style it could be any of the three. If I should choose between John and George, guts say George. Lennon was too lazy for that many position changes.

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He says, "George Harrison did some amazing things". He included him in the "great guitar players" of the Beatles. I'm not sure what you want him to say when it is a video about John Lennon.

Is it just me or did that guitar not sound very good? Granted, he was hitting it hard without much finesse, but it just didn't have a very good tone to my ear, at least.

– Ric12string

I think you need to replace the stock p-90s with something better to improve the sound of the Casino. Plus, don't know what amp/settings he was using or pedals. Plus, it's YouTube...

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From playing style solo on "Hey Bulldog" could be any of the three.

Yes, that's the conundrum. I was on a thread once where this solo was deeply analyzed by Beatle fanatics. All seemed to pick out things in the solo that could indicate it was John, George, or Paul. (Poor Ringo didn't get a nod.)

If I should choose between John and George, guts say George. Lennon was too lazy for that many position changes.

Come on now...John was the guy who played rhythm on "All My Loving." There are like thirty-seven position changes on every measure!

But I do see your point. John's lead on "Get Back" is pretty much in one spot and for the start of his lead on "Yer Blues" I don't think he even moves his fingers! But somehow the energy in the "Hey Bulldog" lead does lend itself to John more than George, that's why I always think it is John doing that solo.

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I found this on another site that was also discussing who played the guitar solo in Hey Bulldog.

Narkive

In Geoff Emerick's book, on pg. 222, he writes:

"Everyone's performance was excellent on that track ["Hey Bulldog"]: Paul's bass line was probably the most inventive of any he had done since Pepper, and it was really well played. Harrison's solo was sparkling, too--one of the few times he nailed it right away. His amp was turned up really loud, and he used one of his new fuzz boxes, which made his guitar absolutely scream."

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I'm in the midst of reading the book now. Emerick doesn't come off as being a big fan of George in general imo. Kind of high praise here with the above statement and probably definitive on the topic.

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From playing style solo on "Hey Bulldog" could be any of the three.

Yes, that's the conundrum. I was on a thread once where this solo was deeply analyzed by Beatle fanatics. All seemed to pick out things in the solo that could indicate it was John, George, or Paul. (Poor Ringo didn't get a nod.)

If I should choose between John and George, guts say George. Lennon was too lazy for that many position changes.

Come on now...John was the guy who played rhythm on "All My Loving." There are like thirty-seven position changes on every measure!

But I do see your point. John's lead on "Get Back" is pretty much in one spot and for the start of his lead on "Yer Blues" I don't think he even moves his fingers! But somehow the energy in the "Hey Bulldog" lead does lend itself to John more than George, that's why I always think it is John doing that solo.

– Spiritwalker

I think Hey Bulldog is George.... John just wasn't that precise...

Paul played the more off the wall, out of left field, goofy solos.

But where I want to stir up trouble is some say John was the lead break on Every Little Thing and further that it was his special order Rick 12.


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