76 Proteus 3 months ago Pink Floyd are hippies? So it's not upper middle class slick-over produced boomer/lawyer rock? Well, that's a little hard on them. Even after they got more successful than they ever imagined it was possible to be (thanks to Dark Side, the career-saver to end all career-savers), I wouldn't say they ever blanded out quite that badly. I kinda skipped over Woosh You Wuz Here and Aminals, because they didn't strike me as having made much progress (as in, you know, progressive rock) - but if we can forget for a moment the cultural juggernaut that The Wall became and listen to it with open ears, it's really a monumental and terrifying bit of stuff. Thankfully, Floyd always had Roger Waters' fondly-nursed neuroses to keep them from turning into, say, Boston or Jon Bovi. (Until they didn't have him any more.)BUT. When I think of Pink Floyd, I do have a big warm spot for the psychedelic era, when they didn't have any idea what they were doing. Or rather, they had countless ideas but not the default formula they evolved when they became the bridge over troubled Waters. My first PF album was Umma Gumma, by gawd, and I was absolutely the only kid on the block listening to that. They were still so underground then - and until Dark Side - that I literally didn't know anyone else (other than people I forced them on) listening to them. One of those bands so obscure in the milds of rural Ohio that I could lay claim to them as my own. They were still lost in that commercial wilderness when Meddle came out, two years before Dark Side, and I had it to myself too. "Echoes" is one of my bedrock touchstones for a liquid spacious (and sometimes spacey) lead tone - just as Gilmour was evolving the signature tone destined to become such a convention that you can now buy pedals combining the effects he used to get you there in one convenient package.Which isn't what the BS-301 was designed for. But that is the sort of musical place I'm suggesting the Mystwy Bwain takes me to. There are plenty of other similar examples; I used Pink Floyd just as shorthand... So, yeah, early Floyd. Great as Dark Side and The Wall are, they're a different thing. Dark Side was the psychedelic jam-band thoroughly amateur soundscaping Floyd kids accidentally stumbling on something that would sell; Wish and Animals are gentrifying now-comfortable (if not yet numb) young men exploiting it, and The Wall is 30-something masters turning one guy's neurotic ambivalence about that success into the ultimate supremely-polished artifact of their unique art. But it's not near as much fun to listen to. I blame compression, plate reverb, endless studio time, and hired orchestras and choirs.