Modern Gretsch Guitars

Was/is there a premium for flame top models?

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I see various Gretsch guitars with fancy maple "flame" or "tiger stripe" (or some other descriptor) on Ebay and Reverb and such. They are all gorgeous. Was/is there a $$ premium on these? Or did/does wood like this only come on special models?

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It's definitely an upgrade. Even if the guitars are laminate. Flame figure only occurs in about 5% of all maple trees and ridiculously flamed figure without flaws like pin knots, sap pockets, even tight curl, in large pieces is probably more like 1%.

Lucky thing maple as a species isn't rare.

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Paid a premium for this one, but when I saw this particular top, it had to come home.

It's basically a LTV 6120, with nickel hardware, and the quilted top. Model number is G6120-59QM-LTD.

Thanks to "Mother Nature" and how the wood is sorted/used, every top is unique. So, some tops are more appealing than others, but it's a personal thing.

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Paid a premium for this one, but when I saw this particular top, it had to come home.

It's basically a LTV 6120, with nickel hardware, and the quilted top. Model number is G6120-59QM-LTD.

Thanks to "Mother Nature" and how the wood is sorted/used, every top is unique. So, some tops are more appealing than others, but it's a personal thing.

– J(ust an old Cowboy)D

A beautiful guitar.

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I agree, John. that sure is a pretty guitar. however, I bet your Falcon is lonely. so, I'll pick it up and bring it home next time on way through Missery(Missouri). or did you sell that one to buy this one ?

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I have a "thing" for blue guitars, and probably would have pulled the trigger on this one even if it didn't have the quilted top. But seeing the quilted top made this FSR acquisition a no-brainer for me. Having said that, Rocky's price (Streetsounds) was so good I can't say that he got a "premium" for it.

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Now THIS one, I did pay a premium for. I was like a moth to this vintage flame!

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I agree, John. that sure is a pretty guitar. however, I bet your Falcon is lonely. so, I'll pick it up and bring it home next time on way through Missery(Missouri). or did you sell that one to buy this one ?

– Sgt Rock

Hey Sarg, the Falcon is fat and happy in another members talented hands.

I stuck with my rule....one in and one out. When the QM came home, the Bird had to fly.

Guess that's how much I like that 6120!

Hopefully we can meet up this year at some point, somewhere.

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Now THIS one, I did pay a premium for. I was like a moth to this vintage flame!

– kc_eddie_b

Ed, that's a sweetheart. If you ever think of letting that one go, keep me in mind.

Hope that you never call me though. What an instrument.

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Got you on speed-dial JD... But don't hold your breath.

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Paul Reed Smith is generally credited with starting the big push to highly figured maple tops and inflating the price. It doesn't seem to have been that big a deal with vintage models. I have a book with many Les Paul 58-60 bursts and most don't have much figure at all.

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Got you on speed-dial JD... But don't hold your breath.

– kc_eddie_b

Ed, I hear ya. If I was holding my breath, I would be as blue as your avatar gits! LOL

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Paul Reed Smith is generally credited with starting the big push to highly figured maple tops and inflating the price. It doesn't seem to have been that big a deal with vintage models. I have a book with many Les Paul 58-60 bursts and most don't have much figure at all.

– drmilktruck

This issue planted the seed for many on how some of the vintage instruments were built. Not a big deal before hand, but I know that it changed what 6120 I wanted, and I still have that issue in my desk drawer!

Not an easy hunt back then. Living in a little town in Nebraska, pre internet days, well, saw a few more cows than guitars, especially a Gretsch of any kind.

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There are some amazing guitars in this thread, thanks for posting them (and keep em coming!). I'm slowly getting my Baldwin era T Rose fixed up and convinced I need a second Gretsch. At first I thought I'd pick up something affordable and mod it up but now I'm leaning towards spending the cash to get one with fancy wood (and doesn't require much updating).

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.....and convinced I need a second Gretsch?? Second? You've got some catching up to do!

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.....and convinced I need a second Gretsch?? Second? You've got some catching up to do!

– Windsordave

That is a true statement!

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That is a true statement!

– Mr_Christopher

True UNDERstatement.

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I don't know if it's true for other models, but the 6120AM I had - one of the orange-y JF models, had a tinted poly finish, rather than stained wood. In isolation it looked great - the flame was incredible, but put against my 59LTV, and the finish looked disturbingly cloudy.

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What is it with these Rocky FSRs? They have to be the best value in new Gretsches (and the only one I have ever purchased) I have seen! Wow. That is awesome.

My FSR Duo Jet definitely leads my Jets in whatever formation they fly - lacquer finish, creamy white, TV Classics, gold hardware, vintage frets, zero fret...

And I kept staring at the price and checking the specs because I couldn't believe it was real.

Kudos to them... you can get a unique Gretsch for a very fair price.

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My early-2000s 6120 SSU has tight little flames under the green stain:

(photo credit: my pal David Campbell a/k/a Dumeril7)

=K

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I paid more for mine than a standard 6120. It's bloody hard to take a decent picture to show the figuring.

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Surely thats tiger stripe not flame?

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Surely thats tiger stripe not flame?

– Mr Tubs

It certainly is. This beautiful stripe version is more common and still seen occasionally today on a run whereas the flame top is most famous for a batch of 6120's and one of those certainly has quite a premium today, above the already steep price for one of these.

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I just saw this thread so I thought I'd comment a year later:) What do you guys think of Blue Flame...


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