I don't know who started this thread, but here's one:

Model Number: 6120JR2

Serial Number: 005120JR2-259

So it's from May of 2000, and is one of the first ten, or so, of the Nashville Juniors to have the neck join the body at the 16th fret. The first 250 (approx.) had the neck join the body at the 14th fret.

Here's my baby.....

Nice, David! Looking good.

Just got it back from the luthier... he nailed the string height... this thing is gonna wail

i recently saw a 6120 jr. they look SO cool!!

Absolutly love mine.

Here's a Country Classic Junior, from March of 2003.

Model Number: 6122Jr

Serial Number: JT03031868

Here's the very rare Country Classic Junior in Black!

This one's from January of 2003.

Model Number: 6122-JR-BK

Serial Number: JT03010706

Here's a White Falcon Junior.

Model Number: G7594JR

Anybody have the jr. & full size versions of the 6120? If yes, what do you see as the +/- of each?

I've been blessed with a sweet Nashville 6120TM that I Love the Sound of as much as any guitar I've ever heard. And it's totally fun to play. Perhaps the best way to sum it up might be to say if a Country Gentleman's Voice could be compared to Roy Orbison's, then the Nashville is like a combination of John Lennon's and Elvis Presley's! - I dearly Love Roy Orbison's singing (of course!), but I think I'd rather hear John and Elvis's Voices a little more often than Roy's, generally, anyway. (And Robert Smith's, for that matter!)

Some people claim the Junior's Voice is identical to the 6120's, but I say, Not Quite. Very, very close, but not quite. Maybe around 99 % of the way, though! - Surprisingly Close, Really.

But it need not be identical! - The Voice of any Junior is Full and Complete in Itself! - Complete with that distinctive Great GreTscH Sound! - And the Juniors are very definitely Pro-Line GreTscHes, make no mistake about that!

The full-size 6120s fit me like a glove, and with the scale of the Juniors the same as the Nashville's, there's really NO size problem. I'd say the only negative feature of all of the Juniors is that they are neck-heavy. This can be overcome, however, for anyone determined to make it work out for you. I consider the Juniors to be extremely convenient for smaller spaces, - and to be a be a kind of Travel Model GreTscH.

There are Sound Demos on YouTube, for anyone who'd like to check 'em out.

Perhaps GreTscH found they weren't selling well enough, but if that's true, I suspect that would be because many GreTscH players may have felt it's too small to be a real man's guitar. But it's certainly no smaller than many axes, - Telecasters, SGs, Les Pauls, etc. - I Love 'em! - They're Great!

Here's a Sound Demo of a White Falcon Junior:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Those are nice Stingker. All yours?

I really loved the 6120jr. Really gasn for another junior, trying other models havnt cured it? Seriously would love a falcon jr or the black 6122jr

Just the Nashville Junior, - I call her GreTscHen, and the C.C.Jr, which I call Teddy (or more formally, Theodore).

The others I kept pics of from off eBay. Seriously Incredible GreTscHes!

I would agree with Stingker's enthusiasm. I had a 6120 Jr that I didn't bond with but now have a White Falcon Jr that I chased for two years.

Lucky You, DrMilkTruck!

I see yours is from July of '99.

Would you please take a peek through the effs and let us know what type of bracing it has?

It seems we have four possibilities:

• Sound-Post
• Waffle-Bracing
• Trestle-Tracing
• None of the Above

I'd sure appreciate it, and doubtless others would like to know as well.

Thanks,

Tom - Stingker

Here's a 2004 Anniversary Junior:

Model Number: G6118TJR

Lucky You, DrMilkTruck!

I see your is from July of '99.

Would you please take a peek through the effs and let us know what type of bracing it has?

It seems we have four possibilities:

• Sound-Post
• Waffle-Bracing
• Trestle-Tracing
• None of the Above

I'd sure appreciate it, and doubtless others would like to know as well.

Thanks,

Tom - Stingker

How do I know which it is? What I can see is a thin strip on the back of the guitar with horizontal grooves. I can also feel a thin strip underneath the top.

The pre-F.M.I.C. Nashville Juniors are constructed with the basic sound-post bracing system, - and the Country Classic Junior, above, from March of Three, has waffle-bracing.

Just as the sound-posts in the Nashville Juniors serves to facilitate the similarity of sound between them and the larger 6120 Nashvilles, the waffle-bracing of the Country Classic Juniors does an amazing job of facilitating a sound that is surprisingly similar to That Great GreTscH Sound of the larger 6122 Country Gentleman / Country Classic models.

I wonder what type of internal bracing the Anniversary Juniors have. Can someone tell us, please?

Thanks

mine has sound post&bars...

i like to say jr.'s are way better sounding jets

drmilktruck wrote: "How do I know which it is? What I can see is a thin strip on the back of the guitar with horizontal grooves. I can also feel a thin strip underneath the top."

I think it's waffle-bracing.

Here's a photo of waffle bracing (taken by redrocker, I think), which can be seen at the bottom of the picture. I've seen waffle bracing on a variety of Excellent Pro-Line GreTscHes, pre-Fenders and FMICs. What I've seen has always been similar, in which the strip of wood was about three inches wide, about 7/16ths inches thick, with crisscrossing groves, roughly about an inch apart. Sometimes the waffle-brace is only on the back, parallel to the neck, and terminating before it reaches the sides. Other times I've seen it on both the inside of the top and also on the inside of the back. On a 1989 Country Classic I (with the single cutaway - 6122S) I saw it with the grooves side glued down to the back with the smooth side up. Always there's been a sound-post included.

The trestle-bracing I've seen, so far, has always had two stiff rails under the top, parallel to the neck, running along under each end of the bridge, with four vertical posts - two to a rail, - connecting the top to the back.

On my 6120TM Nashville, there's a slim sound-post under the bridge, connecting the top to the back, as well as two soft-wood dowel-like rails extending under the top, alongside the pick-up holes, in the same position as the rails used for trestle-bracing.

I've never heard of a hollow-body GreTscH without a sound-post of some kind, and I doubt that would ever be built because of the intense pressure of the strings on the bridge.

Thanks for taking a look-see. I sure appreciate it!

I've got a little dental mirror and a sweet little flashlight with a stiffish wire connecting the batteries to the little bulb. You can bend the wire to any shape you'd like so you can adjust it for your particular situation. It's very handy!

I've seen great pictures, posted on these Pages, by guys just sticking their cell-phones in through the effs!

Anyway, I know it can be difficult to make out what's in there, especially if you haven't had much practice at it.

Thanks again, DrMilkTruck,

Tom

cyclopssam wrote: "mine has sound post&bars..."

is that trestle-bracing, then, in your White Falcon Junior, or a single sound-post with stiffening rails, like on my Nashville?

Thanks,

Tom - Stingker

Stingker him sez:

I've never heard of a hollow-body GreTscH without a sound-post of some kind, and I doubt that would ever be built because of the intense pressure of the strings on the bridge.

I sez, au contraire! I can't speak for all such beasts in all eras, but my '04 spruce-top Cad green Club has no post, and the same construction has been documented by other members.

It was a topic of interest several years ago in this thread, where we were trying to parse features of various models in the Country Club line.

Just a few months ago, soundpostlessness came up again.

There are some out there, and string pressure seems not to collapse them.

Short note on waffle bracing: Terada appears to use the modular possibilities of the material as a way to fine-tune the resonance of a particular guitar body. It's not a cheap or less desirable shortcut - it's just another approach to variably stiffening a guitar body for a desired result.

When my white Dyna Gent was being built, I was asked if I wanted to specify bracing or let Masao Terada configure it. I asked not only Gretsch guys, but a friend who was the long-time product manager for Alvarez, Yairi, and various imported Asian guitar lines, whose knowledge of the industry was thorough.

Everyone said the same thing: Masao's brilliant - let him do what he wants. Which is what I did.

You beat me to the punch, Proteus. My Club also survives without a soundpost.

Thanks again, Proteus, for your valuable input!

Tom - Stingker