Has anyone here who owns one of the modern (FMIC) Duojets, find their necks to be somewhat narrow?
Got mine back from a setup yesterday on the way to the hospital (yes, priorities, priorities), and tried in there in the store, but the neck still isn't as comfortable as my vintage Double Annie, nor anywhere near the perfection of my RIC 330.
Should I ask them if the adjusted the neck relief? It's just not "there" for me. But on the plus side they were able to lower the action enough to bring the neck pickup closer to the strings, and now the 3 positions are really clear & noticeable.
Much more bottom end, and clear chime.
In other news, been taking it easy today, with one of the cats on my lap as we both snoozed on the sofa in front of the TV. Doctor said I can start a slow normal routine after 48 hours.
Played one recently and didn't notice that it felt narrower than my 3140 or Epi, but I did notice that the frets felt silly tall. Really hard to slide around on the neck.
My 6128T-DSV has what I feel ot be a big wide neck. I've got small hands though. The neck of my 6120 is a bit more comfortable. I've gotten used to the jet neck though. I'd love to play some different jets and see how the necks differ.
Thanks for all the input, guys. My hands are kinda on the large size, and one of my tests for comfort is the riff by George on "Everybody's Trying To Be My Baby".
It's a snap on the 330, and the vintage Double Annie. Haven't tried it on the 5122, or Srat. I've got another vintage Double Annie coming, so will try it on it, and see how they compare: vintage-to-vintage.
Everybody pretty much describes how their Gretsch plays "like butter", and I'm just not getting that with this Duojet.
SJS: I'm going to try to make it to the Nashville Roundup this year, and if you'll be there, I'll try to bring the Duojet along so you can give it a whirl.
The neck on my 1968 Epiphone Sheraton was also super comfortable, as my 1962 Gibby SGLP. Just can't figure this out. May ask them to adjust the truss rod, and see if that makes a difference.
FMIC = Fender Musical Instrument Company (or something close to that)
I have a 6129tls and while I wouldn't call it a fat neck, it is a nice handful. Is it narrow? Like binding to binding? No, it's inline with my other Fenders and wider than my 70-71 SG. The back contour on my Sparkle Jet is a nice soft V. Not heavy shouldered and round like my Tele's (Allparts TMO-FAT) big honker of a neck. But, not skinny at all.
I have kinda big mitts too... I like having a handfull. Love the 50's fat neck on my LP. And, I really love the 6129's neck. It's about as close to perfect as I have experienced.
Pardon my ignorance [and sorry to change direction] but I couldn't find a meaning for FMIC on the site anywhere? What does that mean?
Pardon my ignorance [and sorry to change direction] but I couldn't find a meaning for FMIC on the site anywhere? What does that mean?
It stands for Fender Musical Instruments Corporation.
In 2003 Gretsch entered into an agreement with Fender Musical Instruments Corporation (FMIC), under the terms of which Fred Gretsch III would continue to own the company, with FMIC handling most development, distribution and sales.
I have 3 current Jets and a preFMIC Jet as well. Three are JT serial number (well 2 currents and the preFMIC) Terada factory builds.
All of them have the same width at the nut, 1 11/16 inch and 2 1/16 inch at the twelfth fret.
They all have fairly shallow, C profiles. I would call them slim. My 2008 Terada Falcon has a shallower (thinner, measured from the top of the fretboard to the back of the neck) profile still.
My JD serial number Dyna Gakki build Jet has a little deeper profile. It is noticeably different from the Terada necks I have, but only very slightly. Far, far away from being clubby.
There are exceptions as some posters have noted but in my experience, most modern Gretschs have fairly slim necks.
I once had a JF serial number Fuji gen Gakki build Tennessee Rose that had a wider (1 3/4 inch at the nut) neck than usual and I just could not ever feel comfortable with it.
I think you also had, at one time, a G6122-1959 or 1962 and I think those also had wider than usual (for Gretsch) necks. It could just be that you and the typical Gretsch neck do not get along.
speaking of necks , about 6 months ago i bought a new DC Duo Jet , and the fret edges are like razor blades ,,,, so there goes a few dollars for a little attention , but not as bad as my new Gibson es355 custom shop ,,,,,, its back at the factory now for a new neck ,,,,,,, mega twisted headstock ,,, and actualy i rather they just replace the guitar ,, heck i have 2 those electromatics a 5120 and 5122 and they make the gibson seem like a hunk of junk ,,,,,, go figure ,,,
Don't know if this helps. The neck on my 1996 6129 is exactly the same width as the neck on my 2006 5120. Measured at the nut and again at the 12th fret.
When I look up specs, it says they're supposed to be the same 1 11/16, but the Annie sure feels wider (need to find a tape measure) compared to the Duojet. It's easy to feel the profiles are completely shapes.
Found the truss rod tool in the case just now, will try giving it a few twists and see what that does. But I don't remember which way to turn (sounds like a bad lyric doesn't it ).
I really want to bond with this puppy, bought it because of George, and now after the tweaks, it's sounding better than ever.
My Silver Jet's nut width was ok, but the profile was WAY too thin. That thin C 60s shape works ok for me on a Fender scale neck with the vintage Fender radius and nut width. But not on the Gretsch. Too wide and too thin.
I have a 2011 6128T-DSV and the neck is great for me. It is not narrow. Like silverjetstaff's, It's on the thick side compared to a lot of guitars but not too thick for me. I think it may be because this model is built to resemble a 1956 Duo Jet and most 1950's guitars I've seen and played were built with thicker necks.
2011 TCG Jet, Terada. Neck is bigger than my 6120AM (FJ), which is sort of like the classic 1960 Gibson neck, but not as big as say a current "50's" Gibson. Very comfy.
Interesting all of these different variations. Tried adjusting the truss rod on the Duojet, and it made a slight difference.
The 5122 is flat in my hand, but both Double Annies are completely different animals, with the latest 1967 addition edging out the other 1967 as a more comfortable neck.
Overall though, the RIC 330 is the best. A close 2nd would be the MIJ 1980s strat with 22 frets & soft "V" contour. Fit like a glove. Unfortunately After 20 years, it's gone (bonehead move on my part).
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Has anyone here who owns one of the modern (FMIC) Duojets, find their necks to be somewhat narrow?
Got mine back from a setup yesterday on the way to the hospital (yes, priorities, priorities), and tried in there in the store, but the neck still isn't as comfortable as my vintage Double Annie, nor anywhere near the perfection of my RIC 330.
Should I ask them if the adjusted the neck relief? It's just not "there" for me. But on the plus side they were able to lower the action enough to bring the neck pickup closer to the strings, and now the 3 positions are really clear & noticeable.
Much more bottom end, and clear chime.
In other news, been taking it easy today, with one of the cats on my lap as we both snoozed on the sofa in front of the TV. Doctor said I can start a slow normal routine after 48 hours.
I've got a 6129 made in 2008 (you may have seen it in the Baltimore Sparky set that was so "loved")
It's definitely thin, but not any thinner than my 3140. Don't know how it compares to the 6120's and such.
Played one recently and didn't notice that it felt narrower than my 3140 or Epi, but I did notice that the frets felt silly tall. Really hard to slide around on the neck.
My 6128T-DSV has what I feel ot be a big wide neck. I've got small hands though. The neck of my 6120 is a bit more comfortable. I've gotten used to the jet neck though. I'd love to play some different jets and see how the necks differ.
Thanks for all the input, guys. My hands are kinda on the large size, and one of my tests for comfort is the riff by George on "Everybody's Trying To Be My Baby".
It's a snap on the 330, and the vintage Double Annie. Haven't tried it on the 5122, or Srat. I've got another vintage Double Annie coming, so will try it on it, and see how they compare: vintage-to-vintage.
Everybody pretty much describes how their Gretsch plays "like butter", and I'm just not getting that with this Duojet.
SJS: I'm going to try to make it to the Nashville Roundup this year, and if you'll be there, I'll try to bring the Duojet along so you can give it a whirl.
The neck on my 1968 Epiphone Sheraton was also super comfortable, as my 1962 Gibby SGLP. Just can't figure this out. May ask them to adjust the truss rod, and see if that makes a difference.
Pardon my ignorance [and sorry to change direction] but I couldn't find a meaning for FMIC on the site anywhere? What does that mean?
FMIC = Fender Musical Instrument Company (or something close to that)
I have a 6129tls and while I wouldn't call it a fat neck, it is a nice handful. Is it narrow? Like binding to binding? No, it's inline with my other Fenders and wider than my 70-71 SG. The back contour on my Sparkle Jet is a nice soft V. Not heavy shouldered and round like my Tele's (Allparts TMO-FAT) big honker of a neck. But, not skinny at all.
I have kinda big mitts too... I like having a handfull. Love the 50's fat neck on my LP. And, I really love the 6129's neck. It's about as close to perfect as I have experienced.
It stands for Fender Musical Instruments Corporation.
In 2003 Gretsch entered into an agreement with Fender Musical Instruments Corporation (FMIC), under the terms of which Fred Gretsch III would continue to own the company, with FMIC handling most development, distribution and sales.
I have 3 current Jets and a preFMIC Jet as well. Three are JT serial number (well 2 currents and the preFMIC) Terada factory builds.
All of them have the same width at the nut, 1 11/16 inch and 2 1/16 inch at the twelfth fret.
They all have fairly shallow, C profiles. I would call them slim. My 2008 Terada Falcon has a shallower (thinner, measured from the top of the fretboard to the back of the neck) profile still.
My JD serial number Dyna Gakki build Jet has a little deeper profile. It is noticeably different from the Terada necks I have, but only very slightly. Far, far away from being clubby.
There are exceptions as some posters have noted but in my experience, most modern Gretschs have fairly slim necks.
I once had a JF serial number Fuji gen Gakki build Tennessee Rose that had a wider (1 3/4 inch at the nut) neck than usual and I just could not ever feel comfortable with it.
I think you also had, at one time, a G6122-1959 or 1962 and I think those also had wider than usual (for Gretsch) necks. It could just be that you and the typical Gretsch neck do not get along.
speaking of necks , about 6 months ago i bought a new DC Duo Jet , and the fret edges are like razor blades ,,,, so there goes a few dollars for a little attention , but not as bad as my new Gibson es355 custom shop ,,,,,, its back at the factory now for a new neck ,,,,,,, mega twisted headstock ,,, and actualy i rather they just replace the guitar ,, heck i have 2 those electromatics a 5120 and 5122 and they make the gibson seem like a hunk of junk ,,,,,, go figure ,,,
Don't know if this helps. The neck on my 1996 6129 is exactly the same width as the neck on my 2006 5120. Measured at the nut and again at the 12th fret.
Mucho mungo for the latest info, guys (+Anne
).
When I look up specs, it says they're supposed to be the same 1 11/16, but the Annie sure feels wider (need to find a tape measure) compared to the Duojet. It's easy to feel the profiles are completely shapes.
Found the truss rod tool in the case just now, will try giving it a few twists and see what that does. But I don't remember which way to turn (sounds like a bad lyric doesn't it
).
I really want to bond with this puppy, bought it because of George, and now after the tweaks, it's sounding better than ever.
Thanks Joe
My Silver Jet's nut width was ok, but the profile was WAY too thin. That thin C 60s shape works ok for me on a Fender scale neck with the vintage Fender radius and nut width. But not on the Gretsch. Too wide and too thin.
It was a 2011 6129.
I have a 2011 6128T-DSV and the neck is great for me. It is not narrow. Like silverjetstaff's, It's on the thick side compared to a lot of guitars but not too thick for me. I think it may be because this model is built to resemble a 1956 Duo Jet and most 1950's guitars I've seen and played were built with thicker necks.
2011 TCG Jet, Terada. Neck is bigger than my 6120AM (FJ), which is sort of like the classic 1960 Gibson neck, but not as big as say a current "50's" Gibson. Very comfy.
Interesting all of these different variations. Tried adjusting the truss rod on the Duojet, and it made a slight difference.
The 5122 is flat in my hand, but both Double Annies are completely different animals, with the latest 1967 addition edging out the other 1967 as a more comfortable neck.
Overall though, the RIC 330 is the best. A close 2nd would be the MIJ 1980s strat with 22 frets & soft "V" contour. Fit like a glove. Unfortunately After 20 years, it's gone (bonehead move on my part).
with my limited exposure i come to find big head jet necks(i've played 3 of them) are a tad wider?.....