Gretsch Amps

Matched Quad 6L6GC suggestions please…

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What is the current state of the world for buying a matched Quad of 6L6GC?

Any bad experiences?

Any rather good ones?

I have a matched Quad in my Supplies, Sovtek from more than a decade ago.

Need other thoughts...Thx

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Myself and the two techs I frequent have had great succes with TAD's tubes. I think their selection process might be a little more rigourous than others, very low failure rate. Worth the little extra they cost in my own experience.

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Curious what the quad is running

Twin Showman Quad Super Six

or maybe somethin' else.

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These are as good as it gets today. If you have a ten year old set...that's even better.

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That's my opinion, too.

They are for the Gretsch Super Bass in my other thread...

Those in your photo are the 5881 size?, hard to read the numbers in the picture...WXT+?

I have a Quad of the 6L6WXT+, they are longer?, bit more output.

I have used them for years in the CVR, very happy with them.

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+1 on TAD's. Always my 1st choice.

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amplified parts is runnin sales...take a look at jj matched quad...they are sturdy 6l6's..and amplified parts/antique electronics supply has good return system, in case you have problems with a tube

jj is the last tube manufacturer in eastern europe..the rest are mike matthews/eh russian made or chinese..tad just sources chinese tubes and test them to their spec..then rebrands

cheers

ps- sovteks always had a bit of hair on em...little bit of grind...jj's can stay clean (like old usa GE 6l6's) until pushed harder...depends what type of tone you're after

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The best set of new production tubes I’ve used we’re the old “Winged C” Svetlanas, made before the company sold. Pretty awsome. Expensive now but worth looking into.

Tempted to try the new Tung Sols. Their 6V6s sound really nice in Fender tweeds. A buddy of mine seems to go thru a lot of TADs. Rubys blow. Never been a fan of JJs, had a lot fail on me.

The Sovtecs seem to be the old trusty. Very sturdy, found in many new amps. I just don’t like how they sound.

Can’t beat a quad of NOS USA. Expensive, but hey.......You seem to be putting a lot of time and effort into rebuilding the amp.

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I have that old pair of Winged C I showed you at the RoundUp. I put those back in the CVR Stack...

I played the amp with a few newer guitars and the Jack Bass, ... sounded great.

Probably a few years since swapping for swapping's sake...I prefer the Sovtek 6L6WXT+. Those guitars I acquired early on after having the amp, and having modded it back a more calm level of excitement and touch sensitivity, are what my ear likes.

I'll get a good test with the Sovtek 6L6WXT+...I can easily try a new Quad of current production Tubes.

The Tech told me a good story of how a local Carson City businessman bought all the old RCA Black Plate Production Gear. Got it up and running, then folded.

Those Tubes are an enigma, supposedly blessed!

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over time, i liked two kindsa tubes over all the rest...(depending on the application...vox/fender)....mullards and GE's...

i have well used mullards that are over 50 years old...and still can sing!

mullard (founded in 1920!) old wwII uk tech!!! never bested!!

(tho no connection to the current mullard tubes)

cheers

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Sadly, tubes/valves are an over 100 year old technology, that's been getting scarcer for the last 50 years. If you find some good ones, hang on to them. The market for them is really small---and getting smaller.

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"Tempted to try the new Tung Sols. Their 6V6s sound really nice in Fender tweeds."

I really like the new Tung-Sols, both the 6V6 and 6L6 (also my current favorite 12AX7).

For anyone looking to get a little more stiffness/headroom/volume out of a 6V6 amp, try the JJs... they are like a "mini 6L6" instead of a normal 6V6...

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I had a pair of decade old Tung-Sol 12AX7 in my spares as well, those will be the Pre-Amp tubes for the first trials once the Amp is done refurbishment...

And I am letting this Tech do his thing, we have a good rapport. As I mentioned before, this Amp is in just great condition cosmetically....Museum quality.

It is another "pay it forward" Music gear expense for me. I am sure it will be more $$$ than I might have initially expected.

In the end it could be Fender Bassman alternative for all the Brian Setzer wannabees, just add in a Tavo Mystery Brain instead of a Space Echo....(joke)!

It certainly will be my "this one goes to 11".

The Tech made his own joke about the Amp coming into the market just in time for "The Summer of Love"...

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"Tempted to try the new Tung Sols. Their 6V6s sound really nice in Fender tweeds."

I really like the new Tung-Sols, both the 6V6 and 6L6 (also my current favorite 12AX7).

For anyone looking to get a little more stiffness/headroom/volume out of a 6V6 amp, try the JJs... they are like a "mini 6L6" instead of a normal 6V6...

– ruger9

The nomenclature of the the JJ tubes in question is tricky. They make a 6V6 and a 6V6S. The latter is not the plural of the former, but the fact that it reads pretty much the same way can make searches difficult.

They're a LITTLE like a 6L6; more girth and headroom than a 6V6, but still with plenty of 6V6 character. Depends on the circuit, the bias, the speaker(s), the preamp tubes, the rectifier, the guitar, and the alignment of the stars. I run 'em in a BF Deluxe Reverb with a Celestion Vintage 30, and it's oodles louder than the average bear.


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