Thats good ! I sure hope Gretsch makes an Electromatic (meaning imported an inexpensive ) Cowboy amp soon. How cool would that be?
Gretsch 5222 amp Lacquered/Added Weber Alnico speaker!!!
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Sep 3, 2008 8:18 p.m. RepentOrPerish:
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Sep 3, 2008 8:29 p.m. wenzel:
That would be awesome and I would definitely buy one!!!
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Sep 4, 2008 3:01 p.m. AdamJ4130:
RepentOrPerish said: I recently had a cool experience with my liitle 5222. I played it during a photo shoot, with my upright bassist and a Martin DR flattop playing acoustically. With the amp tilted up and against a garage door, it was the perfect volume for a nice mini gig! It did crunch out on me, even with Dynas, so I am really interested in getting that speaker. On the Weber website , someone says you have to have the chassis installed cockeyed to clear the speaker magnet? Did you have this problem Chris?
With the factory tube, it fits fine... i got a jj 6v6 and it's nearly and inch taller and didnt come close.... i rotated the speaker baffle 90 degrees toward the transformer, puting the speaker closer to the 12ax7 and away from the 6v6. i recovered the grill cloth so look normal, but now ANYTHING will fit in the power section. http://a931.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/102/l_440c89a605d5bdaa93531ed1ae46bd02 theres a pic.
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Sep 4, 2008 7:03 p.m. RepentOrPerish:
Yeah, the JJ's are humongous and almost 6L6like in size.
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Sep 4, 2008 10:44 p.m. cajunpicker:
Wenzel: I vote for the sound clips.
Could some kind and patient soul explain to me what the cap mod does, please?
I have a copy of this little amp, and even stock, I love it to death. Especially beats draggin' out the Mesa Hunree just to practice.
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Sep 4, 2008 10:53 p.m. Curt:
I vote for the sound clips.
It's rough and I put a tank in before the amp but it has the speaker, cap and a black plate tube. -
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Sep 4, 2008 11:05 p.m. cajunpicker:
Pick it, Curt! Thanks, nice work.
How loud were you playing at the time?
Sounds big.
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Sep 5, 2008 1:21 a.m. fieldhdj:
Now why can't I get my modded 5222 to sound like that?
Great pickin' Curt!
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Sep 5, 2008 5:48 a.m. Curt:
Thanks. Caj, the amp was on 6 and the mic was "on the speaker".
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Sep 12, 2008 6:56 p.m. Setzer:
JBGretschguy said: You can also change C1 capacitor to a 500pf Silver Mica for clearer highs and more pronounced upper mids.
I just finished this "C1" mod on my 5222 and I highly recommend it. Kudos to you Josh for pointing this out to us. And thanks for the cap!
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Sep 12, 2008 7:21 p.m. RepentOrPerish:
Sounds cool.
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Sep 27, 2008 1:16 a.m. wenzel:
Well, I added the oxblood grille cloth tonight and added a ton of copper shielding tape where it needed it. I fired up the amp and it doesn't even hum anymore at idle like it used to. I also moved the speaker over to the left by flipping the baffle. I painted the face of the baffle since it was wood color and you could see it through the grill cloth. I added a gretsch nameplate to it too. I'll take pics when I get time.
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Sep 27, 2008 1:20 a.m. wenzel:
Where's the info on the cap mod and instructions on how to do it??? What cap value and where does the cap go? Thanks.
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Sep 27, 2008 2:21 p.m. Setzer:
Chris, Josh replied to you on the first page of this thread:
jb said to chris on Aug 31, 2008 10:36 p.m. said: JBGretschguy: Chris, C1 is on the top of the printed circuit board out in the open. If you use a good desoldering braid and hot soldering iron, you can desolder it from the top of the PCB. (the 5222 PCB uses aerospace/military style plated-through holes, so you have to "wick" the solder up through the hole.)
Weber sells the 500pf Silver Mica capacitor for about 55 cents. You won't find them at Radio Shack, but a good electronics store should have them. In a pinch, you could use a ceramic one, such as is in there right now.
It's easy and took longer to get the chassis out. I was able to desolder the cap (without wicking) from underneath the board between the chassis. It's a tight fit but my pencil iron's tip was hot enough and I was able to reach both legs. The board is printed with numbers and letters so just look for "C1".
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Sep 27, 2008 2:40 p.m. wenzel:
Gotcha. Sorry, I was gone for a couple of weeks with no real internet. I guess I missed that response. To discharge the cap all you need to do is use a screwdriver and touch the cap and then touch the metal part of it to the chassis right? Will the electricity go through the handle and shock you? I have craftsman screwdrivers with the plastic handles. Thanks. I don't want to die!
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Sep 27, 2008 2:56 p.m. wenzel:
Here's some pics of my mods so far. I'll be doing the C1 cap mod this week!
Also, here's a pic of my dog just for the heck of it!
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Oct 6, 2008 8:10 p.m. wenzel:
Ok, I installed the C1 cap mod with the exact part recommended above from Weber. I didn't notice a HUGE difference though, was I supposed to? Let's say, theoretcially, if I didn't install it so that it was making a connection at all, would the amp still work? I doubt it, but who knows. I'm sure it's installed properly though, but what was the sound difference supposed to be? I tried to drain the caps, but none of them sparked or popped even when grounded to the chassis. I did unplug the amp and then turned the power on to the amp, did this drain the caps for me? I tied a piece of copper wire to the amp chassis and then wrapped the middle part of the wire around a thick piece of long plastic and used the other end of the copper wire to touch each cap from the bootom of the circuit board. Nothing. I then used one of those voltage testers that have a light bulb in them to touch all of them again, nothing at all? I thought this was weird since I just used the amp the night before.
Anyway, it sounds about the same to my ears, so I'm trying to see if I can hear the difference. I played some cake stuff through it tonight fully cranked and it sounded very Cake-like though.
Anyway, it was still fun tinkering with the amp. I didn't wick the solder out. Instead, I heated it up from the bottom and stuck a piece of copper wire through the hole to push the solder out. Worked like a charm.
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Oct 6, 2008 8:55 p.m. JBGretschguy:
Chris, The difference isn't huge. It's a sweetening of the upper mids and a more incisive attack. The effect takes place in the frequencies that would be covered by a "Presence" control. Subtle, yes, but sweet.
In this particular amp, but NOT in bigger amps, the caps will mostly discharge themselves as the tubes cool off.
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Oct 8, 2008 2:10 p.m. Chonny:
Joel got a bunch of these Electromatic amps and Im gonna buy one from him hahaha!
I need something to play while my 65 soho is on order.
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