General tech questions

Mud switch broke; convert to hot rod wiring?

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The tone switch on my SSLVO broke. This unfortunately leaves one or more caps in the signal leaving me with nothing but a muddy tone.

Not that I'm looking forward to it but it looks like I'm gonna have to gut the guitar out.

I never really use the tone switch or the individual volume controls so was thinking about converting it to Hot Rod wiring; master volume and 3-way switch only.

If anyone has ever done this, can the stock wiring harness be converted?

If so, should I rebuild the harness or simply solder in some bypasses?

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You don't have to rebuild as much as it is rewire. Take a look at the following diagrams:

Switch circuit

Hot Rod circuit

It takes the volume pots and the mudswitch out of the equasion. Just some cutting wires and resoldering required.

3

Dont forget to stick the Tone switch inside the guitar and leave the hole uncovered like Setzer did. Huge tone improvement

Just kidding... The Hot Rod wiring does affect your tone. Makes IT more direct, louder and brighter. At least to my ears... Powertrons for example really benefit from doing it. They clear really up

4

I put a hot rod harness (from TV Jones) in my 125th Jag Tan Annie and I love it! Made a huge improvement in tone. Clear, loud and punchy.

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Thanks for those diagrams, Limuz. Those are much easier to read than the ones on the Gretsch homepage.

I'm kinda bummed out because I just overhauled the thing, the strings aren't even worn yet and I already have to tear it apart again.

I'll leave the volume pots in place as dummies because I got super cool casino dice on them and probably leave a hole where the switch was.

6

And then the soldering iron went on the fritz.

Anyway, it looks like one of the leaves in the tone switch got bent the wrong way somehow.

7

I replaced my mud switch w a 500K push/pull pot and .015uf cap. In the down/normal position the entire tone circuit is out, but pull up on the pot and it engages the potentiometer w the cap. I get a hotrod circuit and a much more usual tone control when needed. I wish this was stock on all gretsch guitars.

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I replaced my mud switch w a 500K push/pull pot and .015uf cap. In the down/normal position the entire tone circuit is out, but pull up on the pot and it engages the potentiometer w the cap. I get a hotrod circuit and a much more usual tone control when needed. I wish this was stock on all gretsch guitars.

– THE NOCTURNE BRAIN™

That's brilliant. Best of both worlds.

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New soldering station came in the mail today.

Rewired the whole thing but when I measured the output jack I got nothing. When I rotated the volume pot around I got all sorts of weird readings.

I think I fried the pot with the old soldering iron, it didn't melt the solder at all but it did heat pot quite a bit.

Bummer, I'll get back at it tomorrow.

Edit: No, it's not the pot, I didn't even touch it. Something is wrong at the switch.

Edit 2: I soldered the pickup negatives to the wrong terminals on the switch because I'm an idiot who looks at the shape of the switch rather than it's function.

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Update:

Done. Sound is much clearer. There's more twang in the bridge pickup and the neck pickup sounds richer and fuller. Actually it sounds a bit more like a really good Telecaster.

I couldn't leave the switch hole open so I bent the switch back into shape a bit and put it back.


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